When will they ever learn?
Slopya Nadella: “Oh no, people are complaining this is the worst windows ever! We must do something!”
and this is the result. /slowclap
they are constantly looking for reasons to turn people away from their products
I’ve seen this episode before…something something IE something something Netscape
in 98 they were taken to court because at one point you couldn’t even uninstall IE from your PC since, if I remember correctly, It was so tied into the file explorer it would break your system. they also made it difficult to download alternatives like Netscape.
I remember my Dad had a thing for “eMachines” PCs because A. they were cheap and B. most of the time they came preinstalled with Netscape as opposed to IE and he liked Netscape a lot better. Problem with this though is I liked to play X-Wing vs Tie Fighter and Jedi Knight online and the easiest way to do so was via Microsofts Internet Gaming Zone which ONLY worked on IE. and downloading/installing IE in the late 90s on a dial up connection took forever. and THEN once you did install it good luck uninstalling it.
It’s fine.
More people for Linux!
“Funny” news that bring me back to the last time I decided to switch to Linux.
I updated windows 10 and when my PC booted I got a full screen to setup edge. I wasn’t able to find any way to quit the screen. So I completed the set up and went to install Linux.
It’s crazy how they believe they own the PC of their customers… I mean, it’s in the name… Personal…
The OS should get out of my way as much as possible.
Just like government. This capitalist, privacy nightmare timeline sucks.
I wonder what the solution to a capitalist privacy nightmare is… /s
Shareholder value!
Good thing uninstall is a function right?
It looks like you’re trying to install a programme, let me help you . . . [link to microsoft app store].
Edge will connect to the online Windows remote OS server so you can run your applications in it and access your data from the MS data servers. How convenient.
As a computer user with ~30 years’ experience with Windows: why? Why does the browser need to open? Since Windows 98, the OS and the browser have shared common elements. Those get preloaded already whether you like it or not. This is how IE got its performance gains and this is how Edge gets them as well. Firefox once had an extension that did a similar thing, it added a system tray icon that would preload parts of the browser. The effects were not that great, but some people kept it around. I suspect Chrome has similar things in Android/ChromeOS.
So generally I say this is fine, especially since you can opt out and it probably won’t touch business/enterprise, government users, and maybe even Windows 11 Pro users who are spared a lot of the bullshit.
As a Mac guy, I don’t think macOS is loading any part of Safari without permission. Safari isn’t part of Finder (the file manager), it’s not part of the OS aside from being included with it. I run Firefox full time on both my Macs.
And of course Linux is less likely to do this. They typically bundle Firefox (some bundle Chrome or something else) and Firefox isn’t really meant to do that out the gate, so I doubt it’s happening at all on Linux.
But even if I had 11 Home to game on, I’d just opt out, but also accept that it’s probably still loading parts of Edge that other parts of the OS use (like the help system, is that still a thing? Haven’t seen it since 98 or 2000 or maybe XP).
But also, my Macs and iPhone convert the Windows company to, let me just type it so I can show you, Microslop . Yeah, I set that up. It was funny for a while. It’s still funny. Maybe if it stops being funny, I’ll disable it.
Oh, so they’re on board with convincing people to move to Linux. Good job!
sudo apt install edge-browserMake yourself at home!
I’m already at $HOME
Why are you at my home???
my $HOME is not your $HOME
Don’t worry, they’re at /$USER/$HOME
Microslop promising to improve windows 11 and give users agency back.
5 minutes later…
If you want to open Edge without actually wanting to open it, just accidentally click on one of the advertisements in the main menu or any info area widget. Those ignore the default browser and always open Edge.
My new work computer on both teams and outlook just open edge with any links too ignoring my default browser preference. My last one obeyed like a good computer.
Even non-techies know how and want to install a different browser, how many decades more will they try this pressure fueling of their shitty browser?
In fear of playing devils advocate a little bit:
Edge is not a shitty browser. Ad-infested, controlling, overwhelming, disrespectful, annoying yes. But not shitty.
It’s chromium-based so it’s quite fast and secure (unlike Internet Explorer that everyone loved back in the day) and it integrates well with the overall OS.
I wouldn’t use Edge, but it’s a decent default if you’re okay accepting Windows antics or too young to remember for how long Microsoft has been desperately trying to play catch up and failing.
It’s an opinion, don’t kill me. 😶🌫️
Edit: unrelated to the topic, but I’d like to thank everyone for not downvoting me for wrong think like what would happen on that other platform. Why is this community so nice? 😭
I’d argue that those behaviours are what make the browser shitty.
That’s also a fair point, in hindsight. I associate shitty to being insecure, slow, and borderline unusable. I have a middle of the road view on the privacy aspect because Chrome exists, it doesn’t care about your privacy but I think you’ll be hard pressed to call it shitty.
That said, I wouldn’t hold my breath and I wouldn’t be surprised if in a few months time Chrome comes with Gemini integrated by default. All your private data, straight to Google’s servers.
You’re very a tolerant person. I wish i could be that tolerant, but I don’t think I can and I guess I do pay the price quite often…
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I used it for a little bit years ago after it switched to a chromium engine. It was fine.
Edge quickly became my main browser. Its Tab Groups are borderline genius.
Firefox has tab groups, tab notes, tab categories, vertical tabs
Only thing is missing integration with teams and outlook.
Firefox has tab groups too. I don’t know if the implementation is any different since I’ve never used them in either browser.
I do like vertical tabs too… But Firefox has a plugin for that so I’ve been using Firefox the last year or so and rarely have an issue.
Firefox has vertical tabs natively now, actually.
Oh nice, I guess I didn’t notice. I’ll check that out, it may have switched automatically with an update.
Until they started to generate slopilot labels for them. Because nothing is safe from the slop.
