“Effective immediately, the ​United States Navy, the Finest in ​the World, will begin the process of BLOCKADING ‌any ⁠and all Ships trying to enter, or leave, the Strait of Hormuz,” said Trump

  • AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    I keep seeing posts like this and they make a lot of sense. Do you have any recommendations on where someone might read up on this or should I just start googling stuff like “what happens when countries collapse?” “German economy after WW1” “currency collapse of ancient Rome” etc etc

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      8 hours ago

      Not op, and as far from an economist as possible. But I think there has never been a situation like this, ever, in the entire human race.

      I have no clue what will happen but I deeply feel most will have wrong predictions

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        5 hours ago

        civil war is the last thing that will happen.
        the lamest docile subservient people on the planet.

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        I mean, yes and no. Rome didn’t have military bases around the world when it collapsed and Germany didn’t have reserve currency status. But their currency DID become worthless. Stories like people burning money cuz it was cheaper than buying firewood.

        I know that it won’t be “exactly the same” but maybe we could glean some valuable insight. Like physical items held value way better than currency. What did people do? Did families all return home and live with their parents/siblings since costs were too high alone?

        Having an idea of where things might go or what could happen just makes me feel better about it I guess? Like I know if the dollar collapses no amount of prep will really make it better and society as we know it in the U.S. will not exist for a bit.

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          The global economy is new, so much has changed

          4 generations ago most of the food that people ate grew within 20 miles, now a good chuck of my food is grown on four continents in dozens of countries.

          This and every single thing in my house and car has supply lines stretching over a million miles when the travel of every single item, and their materials are added up. Literally, tens of millions of people helped make my items

          Banking is literally hundreds or thousands of times more complex than in my grandfather’s time.

          And my entire career is based on technology and infrastructure I read only hints about in science fiction books as a kid.

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        6 hours ago

        This has happened many times. And this time is no different besides having easier access to debt though digital currency. It might actually make the problem worse never we will have more debt that had been ever generated before.

        Thinking of it like that, its easy to see this will be the worst collapse ever recorded. 90% of our money didn’t exist, and only exists though fractional reserve lending, and asset backed debt like stock borrowing. When the system falls apart and we go to eat the wealthy and distribute the wealth, we will find nothing there because it doesn’t exist.

        Currently we have a few options, completely stop spending and pay the debt back which will never happen. Or continue to spend until bankruptcy. Or what is currently happening, we built a new digital currency that we can leverage debt can continue the gravy train a little longer passing the debt onto future generations. All roads lead to a shitty outcome, it’s just do we go though it or our kids, and we both know what people vote for, to fuck the kids.