If you run your own AI and watch how long it takes, how much it runs up the resources for a few seconds, then you might get an idea of what it’s like hosting at least three copies of a multi-terabyte LLM, in memory, with much shorter response and a much bigger knowledge base (Gemini by Google), taking millions of prompts per minute. Then think of every company that’s hosting major public AI services.
Then remember that the only things good that come out of AI are natural language inference for voice commands and slightly improved developer processes.
Hosting it is just a reminder of the rapid environmental, ecological and cultural destruction that is the AI bubble.
In summary: Perhaps, if the hoster wants it for streamlining their dev process. Otherwise it can be replaced with a far more efficient standard algorithmic program, which is what we had before.
AI can be used for some really cool scientific and medical purposes, but the shit being offered commercially ain’t it bruh. I’m sickened by the recent development. It’s a scam and a long con. Might not even pass as a long con.
I’m loving the YouTube accounts that have come up where they ridicule the ineptitude of AI chat bots. Hilarious stuff.
Data usage and energy cost while running it - this you would have under control when selfhosting
Training of the LLM: You have no control over how the LLM was trained - not which data sources were used, the forkforce that cleaned up the data or the amount and type of energy used to do so
Mozilla is burning donation money on this entry into an already full market, it hooks into cloud models, and at best (if you download one instead) you’ll be left with a wrapper around a closed-source binary made by a Big Tech corporation.
Don’t donate to Mozilla, because this is where Mozilla donations go. Google funds Firefox, donations (to MZLA) fund Thunderbird. Mozilla Foundation funds get sunk into this.
Why are you on such a hate spree against Mozilla? I can understand reasons for not liking Mozilla or not donating but you’re going around even on unrelated comments telling people not to donate. I donated to thunderbird before but not Mozilla directly and I will keep doing that from time to time as I like thunderbird
Because if something is optional, people may want to opt out of funding it.
MZLA is being tasked with developing this enterprise AI software, and even with the money coming from the outside, I don’t see any feasible way it won’t distract from Thunderbird development unless a whole bunch of new employees get hired to work in this separate software. Do you?
I get why people dislike AI being shoved down their throats but optional self-hostable open source AI is really good no
If you run your own AI and watch how long it takes, how much it runs up the resources for a few seconds, then you might get an idea of what it’s like hosting at least three copies of a multi-terabyte LLM, in memory, with much shorter response and a much bigger knowledge base (Gemini by Google), taking millions of prompts per minute. Then think of every company that’s hosting major public AI services.
Then remember that the only things good that come out of AI are natural language inference for voice commands and slightly improved developer processes.
Hosting it is just a reminder of the rapid environmental, ecological and cultural destruction that is the AI bubble.
In summary: Perhaps, if the hoster wants it for streamlining their dev process. Otherwise it can be replaced with a far more efficient standard algorithmic program, which is what we had before.
AI can be used for some really cool scientific and medical purposes, but the shit being offered commercially ain’t it bruh. I’m sickened by the recent development. It’s a scam and a long con. Might not even pass as a long con.
I’m loving the YouTube accounts that have come up where they ridicule the ineptitude of AI chat bots. Hilarious stuff.
Criticism on LLMs has two angles:
Maybe, maybe not.
The question I have is: How is this the best way for a non-profit to shape and steward the open web?
no
Mozilla is burning donation money on this entry into an already full market, it hooks into cloud models, and at best (if you download one instead) you’ll be left with a wrapper around a closed-source binary made by a Big Tech corporation.
Don’t donate to Mozilla, because this is where Mozilla donations go. Google funds Firefox, donations (to MZLA) fund Thunderbird. Mozilla Foundation funds get sunk into this.
Why are you on such a hate spree against Mozilla? I can understand reasons for not liking Mozilla or not donating but you’re going around even on unrelated comments telling people not to donate. I donated to thunderbird before but not Mozilla directly and I will keep doing that from time to time as I like thunderbird
Because if something is optional, people may want to opt out of funding it.
MZLA is being tasked with developing this enterprise AI software, and even with the money coming from the outside, I don’t see any feasible way it won’t distract from Thunderbird development unless a whole bunch of new employees get hired to work in this separate software. Do you?