thats exactly what he was doing. Now that there is tangible real world legislative harm happening in his own state even some of his starry eyed supporters, ticket buyers, even family are turning on him. So he wants to pretend he was doing something else. Not to mention the things he said about people over reacting to Louie CK’s harassment and gross behavior with other female comedians, and that fact he kept bringing CK to perform at his events.
When you tell the world who you are, and in doing so you contribute to people getting hurt, everyone should believe you the first time, not the second where you try to back pedal. I hope that entire little town he’s trying to turn into a playground for the rich spits him out, but they won’t because people love being near celebrity.
And the celebrities around him, they know he’s shit. I’ll bet Michelle Obama said something to him about his image and impact when he brought her around his mama, and now he’s trying to pretend like he’s not culpable for hurting so many trans people in his state alone (you should see the law it just passed).
He’s a dick and like JK Rowling no one should support him and no one should let him pretend he did anything but stab trans people and women in the face.
Fuck that guy.
Does Dave Chappelle know he is a dick?
Does Dave Chappelle
knowcare he is a dick?Nah he has fuck you money
I doubt it. Dickheads are never self aware.
He lives in a bubble of people telling him he’s great, like most dicks.
That’s the weird part, I’m pretty sure he does
Sounds like someone’s having a little bit of buyer’s remorse, huh? This is why you never drink the Kool-Aid
He sealed the deal when he invited Musk on his stage to suck him off. He showed the world who he really was at that point, make no mistake again.
He punches down at every opportunity, he’s a perfect right wing comedian because that’s all they do too.
“I did, however, thoroughly enjoy the taste of Elon Musk’s Nazi billionaire weiner in my mouth just before I brought him on stage at my show.”
- Dave, probably
Remember when you prematurely ended your show because of some white guy laughing a little too hard at some of your racial humour in a way that you didn’t like? Well guess what Dave, that’s your fuckin audience now after you quadrupled down on your trans bullshit.
These are the people who you chose after you were politely asked to lay off the trans thing and you refused.
Too much of a disconnected rich guy now to give a shit what the poors think I guess.
Did the Saudi money already run out? You don’t get to cater to these jackals then claim innocence when they run with your jokes.
Iirc that was Bill Burr laughing at him during the taping of a sketch he was in
Honestly kind of hilarious if it was Burr. I definitely always just assumed some random extra or something.
Yeah fuck that, if you lay down with pigs don’t get upset when you wake up covered in shit.
Pretty sure pigs wouldn’t be covered in shit if they weren’t locked in a small pen
Wild/feral pigs still intentionally cover themselves in mud and shit. To keep cool and protect from the sun.
They also spread disease through their shit too
So do people
You spread it through yours as well.
Not if I compost it. Proper composting kills pathogens
So do you generally just shit in the compost directly? Or do you bring it out in a bag?
What? No, see the humanure book.
Food compost is distinct from humanure compost. The humanure is done in a bucket under a toilet seat, which is emptied into a barrel. It stays in the barrel for months or years, depending on the climate, until the temperature decreases to room temperature…indicating that the process of killing the pathogens is complete. Then it’s safe to put on fruit trees.
Humbling comment
Desperately rewriting history after not wanting to play conservative crowds anymore. Fuck off Dave. If he apologized and changed I MIGHT hear him out, but all he is doing now is shifting blame.
You helped cause this, dummy
Learn and make up for it, then you get forgiveness
Fuck you Dave Chappelle.
FUCK YOU.
If he did one special about a trans joke and apologized I’d feel different. He did 4 specials bashing trans people. Now this rat fuck is trying to “redeem” himself. He can go fuck himself. Just another rat fleeing the sinking ship. Don’t forget he bought out elon musk and everyone booed him.
"Hey guys I just realized I allied with a bunch of fascist pedophiles and now the only people who want to associate with me are the same people who unironically called me the N word my entire life.
Can y’all just conveniently forget I did that and give me more money again?" - Dave Chappelle
And he called his audance poor when they booed Musk.
He’s poor, compared to Musk. If the Sociopathic Oligarchs had their way, he’d survive their purge, but not because he’s rich, but because he’d be their dancing monkey. The moment he stopped being funny to them, they’d just send him off to the camps, and keep his paltry fortune.
If the Sociopathic Oligarchs had their way, he’d survive their purge, but not because he’s rich, but because he’d be their dancing monkey.
Which is supposedly what he was refusing to be when he quit his show so long ago.
Maybe they did get rid of him and what we’re seeing now isn’t the same person who ran off to Africa way back.
Dave chased “controversy” (aka bigotry) to stay relevant. Now he’s somehow surprised that it was insincere culture war bullshit used to distract people the whole time? Fuck off.
The other thing is that his timing on this is opportune as well. He waited for Trump to become extremely unpopular before coming out with statements like this.
Yeah, I feel like the first special was harmless.
All he really did was point out that trans people have a longer path toward acceptance than gay people.
But damn, did he quadruple down. Of course it’s the Republicans’ fault now that it’s time to pay the piper.
Agreed.
I always make this comparison with Eddie Murphy.
The long and short of it is
Eddie Murphy did some gay jokes in his stand up special Delirious. He then references how gay people were angry at him and his next stand-up special Raw.
It takes up a minute and a half.
He never references again and the rest of the special is mostly about men and women, Johnny Carson and his family; with some small jabs at Michael Jackson and Italians watching Rocky.
And of course a fantastic bit about Bill Cosby. I think it’s worth a watch just for that, considering everything that he has done.
Right, he was “only” targeting transgender people for money. Way better. /s
Get bent, Dave. You became the thing you used to mock.
I used to like him somewhat. But I put on one of those Netflix specials with him and tuned out around 10-15 minutes in because he was just unfunny and hateful. Same with the British bloke, who’s name I forgot. He was pretty based when he called out the actors being friends with Epstein during the Oscars but the latest gig was just “haha, girl with a cock, hahahaha lol, man with tits”. It’s just not funny. If you make jokes about minorities, at least have them be funny and not hurtful. It can be done, just not like this.
Condensing english prick comedian?
Probably Ricky Gervais
Ricky Gervais is who you’re thinking of. He’s essentially an insult comedian who became famous on a radio show ragging on his costar. In context, he’s just doing his thing…
Didn’t he become famous for The Office?
Both happened concurrently, but the radio show lasted well beyond the office. It was the most downloaded podcast in 2006, and got him a show on HBO. He’s absolutely not known for the office.
He is absolutely known for The Office.
He’s absolutely not known for the office.
do you have any idea how big that show was in the UK?
holy shit mate
insult comedian
lol, someone’s upset. was it the criticism of religion? probably
Upset about what? I fuckin love Gervais
dude’s a genuine comic’s comic, he’s funny in all circumstances, but to you he’s just some insult comic who got famous “on a radio show ragging on his costar.”
like, that’s petty levels of dismissive imho. the kind of shit I expect to hear from whiney zealots pouting about their invisible friends.
haha lol found the whiney zealots pouting about their invisible friends!
Oh yeah, and also that other comedian I’ve forgotten the name of. What a dick.
Dave Chappelle the older he’s gotten, the more he’s punched down. It’s not like he wasn’t doing that when he was younger, he just got worse and worse over time. Then he tried to be one of the good ol’ boys and just wasn’t rich or influential enough to fit in and now he wants to pretend he isn’t a crappy person deep down. It’s a bit hard to make it far in entertainment if you aren’t pretty self-centered and opportunistic. He just unmasked to the crowd that weren’t his audience and now he wants back in with the younger crowd again
Did the money get to him? Was he always like this and not having fuck you money kept him in check?
Sounds like you haven’t heard of the “Dave Chappelle was murdered & cloned” conspiracy theory. I recommend going down that rabbit hole.
According to this theory, the last time the real DC was ever seen was on the Oprah Winfrey Show a couple decades ago. Around that time the entertainment industry moguls were dangling a multi-million dollar offer in front of him but he saw right through it & saw the manipulative corruption in the stipulations proposed in the contract and he declined the offer.
He left on a solo vacation to Africa to escape the public eye & clear his mind, and when he came back he allegedly quietly went back to revisit the multi-million dollar offer but still wouldn’t conform with their demands so…
here’s where shit gets weird, consider yourself warned:
They took him down to an underground cloning lab, harvested his DNA etc to create their idea of the ideal Dave Chappelle who would appease both audience & industry, for purposes of financial gain for entertainment industry moguls & to keep audiences complacently entertained. Cloning complete, they murdered the original Dave Chapelle.
The DC we see now has a deeper voice, ripped huge muscular body, makes less controversial comedy than before, while still captivating audiences* & bringing in revenue for the entertainment industry moguls which is all they want him for.
*His most intelligent discerning fans know this isn’t the real DC, and those closest to him, friends & family & close colleagues, have repeatedly reported that the current DC is NOT the same person they used to know. Literally a completely different person.
The most sane and reasonable explanation, yes.
He was probably always like this to a degree. Thing to keep in mind is that political alignments when it comes to voting blocs aren’t all or nothing. Even if historically Chapelle has voted democratic, that doesn’t mean he cared for everything equally or at all and this applies very much to black people and racial minorities in the US and western European countries and leftist parties as those parties are seen as less racist parties so you really don’t have as much leeway to vote for other issues when your safety and basic rights as a minority group are more of a concern over stuff like economic/immigration/healthcare/sexuality/gender/etc policies. Like Chapelle will dependably care for politics that are pro-black Americans but any other race, I’m skeptical he actually cares and very likely doesn’t care for matters of gender and sexuality. In regards outside of social black american policies, he may very well be firmly conservative. It just wasn’t good for his brand earlier in his career
Similar vein would be like the past decade of popular rappers being way more embracing of the republican party than in the past. Like Snoop Dogg, Lil Wayne, Nicki Minaj. Like do Beyonce and Jay-Z really care about the working class or other races. Jay Z was a crack dealer and in the Epstein papers and Beyonce has consistently made use of sweatshop labor and been ruthless with her touring employees. Social progressives in regards to the what they identify with, conservative in regards to their money and possibly other identities.
Racism is still a problem but this isn’t the 70s. It’s not that surprising considering how mainstream homophobia a lot of rap used to be up to the early 2010s. So as multiculturalism continues to become more and more normal, I have expected for a long time for left/right voting splits by race to trend towards 50/50. In the past openly conservative actors/musicians/comedians/entertainers/etc were a lot more common. I’m guessing the civil rights movements going mainstream is what changed that. Then as the civil rights movements that had huge swaths of people could identify with starting passing some good enough threshold, demographic based civil rights becomes more niche and parties have to experiment with messaging and being a conservative entertainer/artist stops being career suicide
I think there should be some healthy skepticism for actors and their actual political alignments. It’s been practically required for public relations for entertainers to be seen as leftist but at the studio executive and I expect at the funding source producer level, there’s always been a high percentage of conservative representation. And publicly rich leftist, I’ve never seen them as eager to fund leftist political causes like publicly rich conservatives. Well known advocate for victims of sexual abuse, Ashton Kutcher, was quick to defend his close friend and serial rapist from that 70s Show. Stories of him and Wilmer Valderrama make them both sound predatory towards young women/girls.
Like their shouldn’t be any genetic reason why white people should be more conservative across the board of polices. The same really for LGBTQ people being progressive which is why I’m never surprised about the existence of conservative people of LGBTQ backgrounds. People always mention how western European politics are so much more leftist than American but to me that only really applies to the social safety net but that doesn’t apply to overall policy in regards to capitalism, immigration, foreign policy/imperialism-racism outside of their own borders. As non-white populations in European countries increase, to me it looks like race politics and racism have become more and more reflective of the US. I have doubts the social safety nets in Europe would have ever been passed if at the times their populations were as racially diverse as the US was in the 50s-80s
“I guess apparently they had made a pledge to the public at large that they would make their club a safe space for all people, and that they would ban anything they deemed transphobic,” Chappelle reacted on his “The Midnight Miracle” podcast at the time. “This is a wild stance for an artistic venue to take, especially one that’s historically a punk rock venue.”
This guy doesn’t understand any subculture, does he? The punks are, historically, very anti-fascist, and the ones I know are also some of the strongest queer allies I’ve ever met. And this guy is surprised that they didn’t want his bigotry masquerading as humour.
And it’s not like you can’t make jokes involving trans people, just don’t make jokes at the expense of trans people.
Humour doesn’t punch down. That’s just bullying.
Humor doesn’t HAVE TO punch down. There can be good LGBTQ+ jokes that are inclusive and sensitive, and, yes, actually funny while including the community and everyone in the humor without being hurtful.
It takes skill and craft to create them, and to deliver them, but, yes, they can exist.
Edit: a big part of comedy is commenting on things one observes. And there is lots to observe and comment upon with queer culture. The key is to comment and observe without being a bigot. Sooo… with a queer eye, that’s fertile ground, and one can do much with that.
If he talked to that “trans friend” he definitely has, maybe he could find out what being trans is actually like and incorporate meaningful material about it. But no, he’s just another bigoted rich asshole now. All he can see is his own “struggles” and that the world is “out to get him”.
*I was morbidly curious and looked up the transcript of his bit about her ('cause fuck listening to him) and wow, how does he think that is remotely supportive? He says the “magic” words (“trans women are women”), then spends the rest of the bit critiquing how well she passed, comparing her genitals to imitation meat, and lauding her for taking his and other people’s abuse “well”. Her only value seemed to be what she could provide to him. Also found out she committed suicide two years prior, so he’s using a person as a shield/punching bag that can’t even speak for herself. What a classless fucking move.
This is a dude who’s definitely been to a drag show. So he has heard queer humor. But he didn’t learn anything from it. That’s the problem.
I think one of Dave’s mistakes is in thinking he didn’t have any “down.” His humor is brilliant and searing when it comes to being black. He’s done skits where he’s a slave. He sees himself as the historical victim of the ages and never imagined that anyone could take what he says as coming from above. Classic privilege blindness, and a great illustration of what that means intersectionally.
I feel like this punching model is like Newtonian physics. We do have relativity now, but you gotta take a higher-level class for that one.
Waka waka
But also, he needs to make jokes period. I saw his last special. If there were any punchlines following his ranting about the mean trans people bullying him online, I totally missed them.
Right? I finished it sincerely wondering if it was intended to be comedy or not. There wasn’t a single coherent joke in ninety minutes. Unless I was supposed to laugh that he bought a fire station and turned it into a club?
The best comedians can roast a president right to his face. The best presidents can hear the roast and laugh at it.
I’m still convinced that Obama roasting Trump to his face at the WHCD in 2011 changed the course of history
I think that is what made Trump decide to highjack the fascist movement in American that had been being cultivated for years. Who knows how ‘16 would’ve gone with Paul Ryan or whoever they trotted out against Hilary
The punks
wereare extremely LGBTQ+ acceptant, even as far back as the 60s and 70sThat’s part of what
mademakes them so fucking hot… all that leather? Are you kidding me?🤯 I was today years old when I learned that…
If punk was “extremely LGBTQ+ acceptant”, then they did they have to create an offshoot? 🤔
I don’t think you understand punk
There’s no “have to” about it
I don’t, which is why I posted the question.
edit: I don’t understand punk, to be clear.
If television viewers were accepting of cooking then why did they have to create a subgenre of cooking shows?
Stop it with your relentless “logic”!
Hahaha. It was a stretch to be sure. The point is one doesn’t need to be exclusive of the other.
Shame on you for not recognizing a famous line from Futurama! 😛
Man, I’m old and too uncool for Lemmy.
That… doesn’t make sense. Viewers don’t make new shows.
Ok. Your question also didn’t make sense.
Punk is genre P LGBTQ+ are viewers V Queercore is subgenre Q
I said:
P accepts V V creates Q If P accepts/includes V why V create separate Q?
TV viewers are V Cooking show is P Cooking show subgenre is Q
You said:
V accepts P then why did V create Q
How should your response make sense to what I’ve said, logically speaking?
Assuming you are asking genuinely, here’s an answer.
Q wasn’t created as a result of V’s(or P’s) intolerance, it’s a specialisation of a larger group, P.
P and Q aren’t mutually exclusive, you can be both.
V can and do enjoy both P and it’s subgenre/offshoot Q.
If you don’t understand in general why larger social groups might sometimes give rise to more specilaised subgroups or offshoots (for reasons other than exclusion) then any answer you receive is not going to make sense to you.
Incidentally, the same explanation works for the cooking show example, as it’s the same basic premise.
I’m not the person who replied to you but I’m fairly confident that person was mimicking your phrasing with an example they thought was simpler for you to understand, in order for you to see how it sounded incorrect.
It seems you didn’t get the context of that, which is probably why it seemed like an odd reply.
in contextual translation:
If television viewers were accepting of cooking then why did they have to create a subgenre of cooking shows?
becomes
In the same way that cooking shows exist as a sub-genre of TV shows in general without requiring broadcasters to have first banned cooking on TV , queercore can exist without requiring punk to have first been intolerant of it’s LGBTQIA+ members.
After not having a great time towards the end of highschool, I ended up spending most of my free time.between classes, in classes, and lunch, etc with the punk kids and the potheads. And they were some of the nicest and coolest fucking kids I’ve ever met. Super glad I had that experience because it definitely broke that propaganda fueled view I had of those two groups, for when i entered adulthood.
Kind of similar for me, except that even the punk people found me too weird/boring/annoying. They were nice about it but definitely not interested in spending time with me, just taking pity on me.
Aww, haha.
I guess I can’t really help, but I appreciate you. :pAlso, I was looking at your comment history because I was curious what kind of person you were. That guy activating his yugioh trap card and calling you a pedophile because you flippantly said 12-years and not 19 or whatever he wanted is so fucking funny. It didn’t even make sense. That was like watching a bird glide into a glass window.
Haha, yep, I got a lot of joy from that, too. Guy must’ve never heard of when puberty starts and what it’s for.
Thanks for the kind words :) I’m alright now, but that teenager time was definitely quite wild/painful for me. I’m glad to have met so many amazing humans and appreciate people like you, too.
There’s propaganda against punks? I mean, I know the mild “troublemakers” label most get, but that generally applies to teens/YA in general.
Yeah, the trouble maker part. Or people that are violent, etc. Going to punk music shows with mosh pits, etc…
I’m so sick of people trying to hide hate speech behind free speech, behind tolerance, behind pluralism. It’s hate. It’s hate. It doesn’t need to be protected and included. This is very old news. All they do by quibbling about it is broadcast to the world that their intellect is about 100 years behind the rest of us. Fuck you, Dave.
Wrong. Hate speech is deplorable, but it’s not up to the state to decide good or bad speech. How long ago was it that queer advocacy would have been seen as bad speech by the government? I would assume that drag shows were not illegal thanks to the protections afforded it by freedom of speech, during times when the government and the people would have been more than willing to ban them. Would a government attempt to flag atheism as hate speech if enough evangelical protestants held office?Speech is speech (hate, good, bad, whatever) and the government should not be able to limit it whatsoever.
If you dont like dave, dont spend any money with him or anyone/any business that supports him.
As a counterpoint laws around hate speech do and have existed in Canada since 1970 and they are specific. We as a country also are more progressive than the states.
The way it works interfaces with the idea that some speech can call for violence or genocide against other geoups and can be liable to be charged under law UNDER SPECIFIC CONDITIONS.
1 - It has to be public - ie one is playing to a crowd. This covers things like making speeches over a microphone, or broadcasting propaganda through print or recording. This law does not apply to private speech. Amongst your peers in a social setting you can do or say whatever you like.
2 - It must regard the call for killing members of an identifiable group (ones outlined in the charter of Rights and Freedoms), or inflicting conditions of life on a group which are calculated to bring about the physical destruction of the group.
3 - It holds other protections- Laws that cover other rights like religion do allow religious views to be expressed or ones that pretain to a legitimate concern of public welfare. These however require citations from legitimate sources. If you are quoting a true historical event or a scientifically proven fact in your speech that actually happened and is documented by historians or scientists - there are protections. If what you are saying is provably untrue then the law takes into account a certain level of flexibility to sentencing based on a good faith understanding that a certain level of deviance from fact can be present as a matter of someone being ignorant.
4 - Like all laws it is a sliding scale. Like you can call the police for someone being a public nuisance by yelling their heads off at 3am - Most of the time this doesn’t end in so much as a fine. In a non broadcast recording setting the cops basically tell the person to stop and only if they persist can they be arrested and even then they might not be charged. Nobody really has seen prison time under this law. Just fines.
A recent amendment to the law specifying holocaust denial has seen people sent to prison and even then it has only shut down those doing it persistently online because that specific rhetoric is historically documented as coming from a movement with clear intent to promote genocide.
The imagining of laws as not being capable of having balance with civil rights activism is a sham and it ultimately hurts minorities. Advocating for better rights or social acceptance cannot be punishable under these laws. Heck advocating for the decriminalization of hate speech is protected speech because there are laws REGARDING protected speech. If someone is calling to kill or inlict utter undeniable misery then they can do it without the benefit of a megaphone. It won’t stop all speech, and it shouldn’t, but if someone is trying to incite actual violence by documenting themselves advocating for actual demonstatable violence then society can have tools to make the cost of that higher.
However - Americans have an entirely different situation. Canada does not have private prisons that provide more pressure to incarcerate more people. We do not elect judges and the only way you can become one is to be a lawyer in good standing for over 8 years. Our documents regarding rights and freedoms is in modern language and not archaic text that requires historical scholarship to contextualize and deconstruct. There is no doctrine in Canadian law to protect the anachronistic interests of long dead founders of the country.
Law in America is much easier to use as tools of oppression. Your paranoia is not unfounded but it is a product of legally speaking coming from a broken home. Laws can be narrow and specific scalpels and not hammers. If they are made in the spirit of protection from violence and narrowed to that purpose they can be good. The rallying cry of “Freedom of speech” is already not absolute and has reasonable limits. It can and does have reasonable limits and those limits are protective of truth and the bodily safety of your fellow citizens who deserve to not be attacked and killed by other citizens radicalized by rhetoric made into weapons.
Keep your mind open.
I agree the state should not infringe speech. You are free to blow more word count than is actually in the First Amendment on reminding us that it exists, and you did. I get it.
But we can hold the belief that the state should stay out of it even while we personally shit on assholes spewing hate and crying “free speech” when they get a reaction to it. They have free speech - they cry about it because they want it to be guaranteed bandwidth / freedom from consequences. Fuck them and fuck that.
You are free to blow more word count than is actually in the First Amendment on reminding us that it exists, and you did. I get it.
Sorry about that. I just assumed you were dumb and irrational because of your take. My bad.
I had a word or two in there that left room open for that. I hope I have clarified.
I genuinely get how it can be a fine line, but people are at too much risk to allow poisonous words to go too far. We saw how powerful such lies can be in 2025, from people who literally regard the entire trans movement as terrorism.
Nazis can be allowed to state any thought that falls under basic logical/philosophic debate. That, to their minds, doesn’t go very far. Once it becomes any form of grouping by identity, by circumstances of birth, by sexuality, it’s just their incessant, generations-old obsession with hatred and is useless for any and all human discussion of progress. There is no grace in protecting it.
Thank you! A friend tried that shit with me. “Why are you so against this, you hang out with racist skinheads!”… Face-palm. Amazing how one movie painted a whole anti racist subculture into boneheads. There are very few racist skinheads, FYI. It’s a very working class pro Unity subculture. IT WAS JUST A MOVIE!
Which movie are you referring to?
I’m going to assume American History X. Though it’s certainly not the only movie to depict the neo-Nazi subculture, it’s probably the most well know.
It is this one. The most popular, and the basis for the rest. Was this stuff happening? did it happen? Sure, but few and far between. Once AHX gained popularity, all of a sudden every skinhead is a nazi skin. When, in reality, it is a small, problematic number in a sea of mostly SHARPS (skinheads against racial prejudice).
Wild guess because I like guessing: American history x
That’s the first thing that jumped out to me as well. He doesn’t understand punk rock or punks.
By Chappelle standard it’s perfectly okay to have a former pedophile doing stand-up at this venue. Now, who in the right mind would allow that? Other than you know who lol
Oh yeah punks would never take a punch for or be outcast for hanging out with trans people, Dave definitely knows his history.
Yes. And there were a lot of Nazi punks too.
