What stops the students from renouncing the protests (under duress) and then just getting back into them once they have degrees?
Although, I’d like to think that any student who defies NYU’s demands will fare much better in the long run than a university that kowtows to facists
Principles. You’d have to be an asshole to publicly endorse genocide
They can just revoke their degrees… Sounds insane, but it happened already to other protesters in the US.
Wow, I had not heard about this but it certainly delegitimizes other degrees that weren’t revoked.
What stops the students from renouncing the protests (under duress) and then just getting back into them once they have degrees?
Probably the fact that if the NYU staffers pushing this are any smart, they’ll withhold the degrees for a few weeks (maybe even months) after the exam or until the protests die down anyway. Sure, they’re bound to do something incredibly stupid right after, but they’ve got what they’ve got.
What about renouncing them officially but then attending protests a few blocks down while wearing masks?
Very dark times in US
I made a new pro-Palestine Lemmy instance !altmedia@altmedia.house come by for more links. I post 10-20 every day.
Why dont these exist on the darknet, to protect all of us?
How does Lemmy federate over Onion Services?
NYU clamping down on the Nazis? I thought I’d never see the day
Hey, it’s the Nazi apologist who constantly simps for Elon Musk!
Here’s your boy:
You’re so fragile that you had to ban the word “fascist” when you were still running your pissant little conservative community LMAO!
Not once have I said anything good about Musk. Doge, sure, but Musk is still an asshole.
You do realize your comments are public, right?
This is like having a battle of wits with a bowl of oatmeal.
Nazism is when you oppose genocide, apparently.
I know right? It’s ridiculous! Apparently, you’re only a Nazi if you think Jewish people shouldn’t be killed by the millions.
take a break, Ethan.
Am I to understand that, from your perspective, every single Palestinian is actually a Hamas operative or sympathizer?
When you only support civilians in Palestine and not civilians in both countries, yeah, that dog whistle is pretty obvious.
Every person supporting Palestinians, too, apparently
Explain yourself.
I should add that I’ve read the article, and the line you’re pushing is utter bullshit.
If you want to commit another Holocaust by killing 9 million people, 7 million of which are Jews, that’s being a Nazi. That’s the main thing Nazis are known for, killing millions of people.
And Hamas explicitly wants kill everyone in Israel. They’re Nazis.
Although, I guess technically speaking they’re not Nazis themselves, they’re just Nazi supporters. Which might as well be the same thing in my opinion.
You’re the type of person that would call Anne Frank a terrorist if she’d lived long enough to resist the Nazis.
Did we find Ethan kleins lemmy account (kaboom) ? 😂😂
How dare those people resist decades of violent occupation, displacement, apartheid, and genocide.
Huh, funny. Becuase 2 million Palestinians live in the Gaza strip, 50,000 already dead by the Isreali offensive and Isreal’s government wants to completely wipe them all out or, at minimum, ethnically cleanse the area. So what does that make the Isreali government then?
Hamas are violent terrorists whose goals are evil. They should not be tolerated. But even by Isreal’s estimates, btw, Hamas has around 16-18,000 soldiers now, and had between 20-30,000 before the offensive started in 2023. So, AT MINIMUM 36,000 civilians or those unassociated with Hamas have been killed. They’re not killing Hamas. They’re killing everything in their way. That’s murder, not defense. That’s genocide, not war.
How many are dead in Israel?
How many would be dead in Israel if not for the Iron Dome?
How many of those dead in Palestine are dead by the hands of Hamas?
How many people have Hamas recruited since the Oct 7th massacre?
It’s amazing how you only care about civilians in Gaza, not Israel. Your dog whistle is so incredibly obvious, it’s ridiculous
What part of Hamas is evil and shouldn’t be tolerated did you not understand or ignore. Their actions are inexcusable as is their goals for Isreal. I do not want the Isreali people nor the Palestinian people to be killed or live in fear. Peace should be the goal. I do understand that that is far easier said than done and Isreali lives under constant threat too, to some degree.
But no amount of evil from Hamas excuses the evil of Netanyahu’s genocide either. They are acting with callus disregard for human life, with violent fervor that mows everything down in their wake, even if their stated goal is 100 percent justified. We also cannot forget that there is plenty of prejudice and bigotry on both sides, and that plays no small part in the actions taken by many soldiers. There are no winners here, no good guys. There are just victims and victimizers. Stop pretending that a massacre is righteous. It is not.
The fact is, BOTH sides are fully committed to nothing less than the total annihilation of the other side. They both support genocide, its just that Israel has more weapons and richer friends, so they are winning.
In reality, neither POLITICAL side deserves respect. Unfortunately, it is the innocents on both sides that feel the consequences the most.
Where does that put someone like me, who is pro-People, but anti-Both Political Sides?
Sane. You’re sane.
Do you accept a position that states Hamas commits evil and Israel commits evil? Both must stop atrocities?
I have yet to see any pro-Hamas supporters, but maybe I don’t get around enough. In your view, is it possible to be pro-Palestine and anti-Hamas?
No. Israel has civilians too. Stop dog whistling, you fucking Nazi.
I presented a question in good faith. I did not state my personal position. I’m not sure what itch you’re trying to scratch by behaving this way, but I hope you find it someday.
I’m not sure what itch you’re trying to scratch by behaving this way, but I hope you find it someday.
I certainly don’t.
Reactionaries don’t think you and I should have rights. They want to restructure society to permanently install themselves as a superior class over the people they hate, and they’re way too dumb to realize that they’re also on the list of people who will be subjugated if their dreams came true.
They have a set of values that is inherently antisocial, and they have no place in a free and equal society.
You can be against that and against Israel’s genocide of Palestinians.
It’s pretty wild to hear a conservative calling anyone other than themselves a nazi, tbh. Thanks for the chuckle.
