Speaking later, von der Leyen said she thought it would be possible to disburse the first tranche of the €45bn funding planned for 2026 in this quarter, meaning by the end of June. The first payment, she indicated, would fund Ukraine’s domestic drone production – “drones from Ukraine for Ukraine”.
The best way to deter Russia from using Nukes would be to stop funding Ukraine, stop saddling them with unpayable debt, and stop using them to threaten Russia. Let’s say Ukraine pushes Russia over the edge by damaging civilian infrastructure, then what? Ukraine gets nuked and they can’t even pay the interest on their loans.
Nobody is going to nuke Russia back for nuking Ukraine. It’s been over for them on the ground for a while. Now we’re testing drones and making Ukraine pay for the weapons project by taking out debt. In a few years there may not be a Ukraine, just a crater where it used to be.
So, we should just let the nuclear powers take over the other countries then?
In the case of Ukraine? Yes. The Ukrainians don’t want democracy or peace.
Remember it was Russia who invaded Ukraine and not the other way around. Imagine being so weak to start a war and then start crying when you realise that you don’t have the ability to win the war.
Russia won’t use nukes here anyway because China will not understand any circumstances let them. If Russia uses nukes in Ukraine, Taiwan will have nukes in 2 weeks time. China does not want this. Russia is now completely dependent on China to keep their economy going they will not defy their masters and risk economic ruin.
If you go damage someone’s infrastructure, shouldn’t you expect your infrastructure to get damaged in return?
Depends. Last I checked Russia wasn’t explicitly targeting civilians and infrastructure like power plants, schools and hospitals, unlike the Israelis and Americans.
Comrade, you need a little more subtilty. Your propaganda sucks
So last time you checked was, like, 2013? You should keep yourself better informed.
Did Putin tell you that?
EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world wrote:
You checked badly then. Just to bring the most poignant example.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_safari_(terror_campaign)
The problem with your moronic hypotheticals is that Ukraine focuses on military and oil infra, they are not like russia and aiming at civilian infra.
And how about we let Ukraine decide what they want to do. If they want to keep fighting, we will support them. If they want to surrender, we will have to support them.
I recommend you take a history lesson before you suggest stupid shit like we appeasing genocidal dictators. I’m disappointed to know that theres stupid fucks in Lemmy as well. I guess its impossible to escape you guys.
To be paid by Russia from reparations. If reparations won’t be obtained, Ukraine won’t have to repay this.
As for the last point, I believe Russia has been repeatedly assured, gently and behind the scenes, that if forbidden weapons are used, then some flavour of doomsday will come. Now the assurance only depends too heavily on French and UK systems, since the US is suffering from mad president syndrome.
The reassuring thing is that Ukraine has worn Russian air defense so thin during the years, that an assurance from France and UK is now credible. The mistake of invading Ukraine has considerably weakened Russia’s deterrents, and infiltration by Ukraine has limited Russia’s ability to achieve surprise.
To be paid by Russia from reparations.You’re delusional. Do you also believe that the US is going to build a wall and make Mexico pay for it? 😂
I’m helping you understand the terms of the loan, which you mis-represented while spreading propaganda.
The EU holds €200 billion of Russian money. So Russia has no choice but to pay at least that much in reparations when the war is over.
Mexico did not attack the US, why would they have to pay for a wall?
It doesn’t work this way.
Imagine giving up before trying to survive
Though the word bufferstate should forever be a shameful word used with reluctance there is enough reason to believe retaliation is imminent when an action has direct consequences on the nations within the EU already