It’s a movie starring his nephew in the lead role, approved by his estate, and by all accounts it just feels like an attempt to whitewash him. This is a man who was accused of being a serial child molester, settled with a family out of court for $25 million just to avoid a trial (Chandler), and openly admitted he slept in the same bed as kids while he was an adult (Bashir interview), among other things. I don’t really see what there is to debate.

Anything pointing this out gets backlash on movie-related subreddits, which I find wild. It makes me wonder, if Epstein could sing and dance, would he have gotten a biopic too? Would people be defending him like this?

  • Andy@slrpnk.net
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    3 days ago

    I hear stories like this, and I think the part people stumble over is that it’s very common for kids to explore their bodies and each other’s at sleep overs.

    It’s not that hard to imagine his sleepovers being ordinary, kids sleepovers and also an environment in which he crossed some boundaries. That’s very common at sleepovers.

      • Andy@slrpnk.net
        1·
        2 days ago

        This is a topic that doesn’t get discussed much, but if you stop and think about it for a moment you might realize that we’re all aware of it, we just basically have a cultural taboo against thinking about it.

        Have you ever noticed that sleepovers are almost always gender-segregated? Why do you thick that is?

        • edwardnashton@lemmy.world
          11·
          2 days ago

          well i cant speak for everyone, but when i was of the age of having sleepovers, i was very much of the mindset that girls had “cooties” and didnt want them at my sleepovers to begin with. had nothing to do with my parents decision, they werent invited to begin with.

      • andallthat@lemmy.world
        1·
        2 days ago

        Well, I have regular sleepovers with my wife and I can tell you that at least once a month there is some exploring

    • katze@lemmy.4d2.org
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      3 days ago

      that it’s very common for kids to explore their bodies and each other’s at sleep overs.

      Yeah I don’t think so. I am way over 30 years old and never heard of that.

      • Andy@slrpnk.net
        2·
        2 days ago

        It’s uncomfortable but true.

        Have you ever heard of kids playing Doctor? It’s not like kids routinely engage in sexual acts, but left alone at night it’s very common for them to do things like undress and compare bodies. Often it’s benign, but without an understanding of safe touches, it’s easy for such encounters to be unintentionally harmful.