echo chambering yourself isn’t healthy or productive. it just makes you ignorant about what is going on around you.
I am not interested in protecting my feelings and surrounding myself only with people who reflect my own beliefs back at me. I’m interested in diversity and understanding other points of view, even those I disagree with.
for me knowledge is the antidote, not ‘positive vibes only’.
If subscribing to one’s own interests is an ‘echo chamber’, then all of us are guilty. If you are going to immerse yourself in ‘diversity and understanding’ by dunking yourself headfirst into the totality of the human condition without any filters whatsoever…well, you get what you deserve, I guess.
You know, I think people have many different interests and reasons for why they use social media platforms. Some are just hobbyists and use it for those purposes and thus curate and control a feed that emphasises their interests. Is that bad?
No. But it’s bad if they insist and harass other people who don’t use the platform the same way they do, or deny/refuse to acknowledge other types of users and problems exist, just because they have curated it out of their experience.
It’s not any different than a white person claiming the cops never bother them, so clearly this BLM thing is totally made up nonsense and these silly black people should stop complaining about police profiling and brutality towards black people.
People generally, really really struggle, with the concept that other people are different than them. For whatever reason, they seem to view other people’s differences, and difference experiences and concerns, as THREATS to themselves, and respond with hostility, often under the ‘let me help you you ignorant fool’ guise.
I mean, i block those people frequently, but man they exist in abundance here. Far more so than in my most of my reddit experience, but similar to my reddit experience from 2020-2022 when my post about my cat sitting on my porch got me banned for inciting violence, because outdoor cats are all mass murders and I am also one if I let my cat on my porch.
Yeah, if you curate your feed to not see things, you won’t think they are happening.
That’s the problem with all social media platforms. People self-select into their own little worlds, and think anyone outside of that world is ‘boxing at shadows’. Or they convince themselves that they are heroic warriors on a holy war against Microsoft, etc.
Personally, I enjoy the ability to go into other communities and see what is going on there. I prefer to investigate things myself, than rely on hearsay and dwell in ignorance and denial that thinks I don’t know about or experience don’t exist.
Yeah, if you curate your feed to not see things, you won’t think they are happening.
Okay? I mean The Threadiverse isn’t necessarily the only place people on here expose themselves to.
You just complained that people complain about how others use the platform, and now you’re here right now lecturing on others if they choose to curate their feeds and only follow their subscribed communities.
No. I’m complaining about people complaining at me that I don’t curate my feed to be puppies and kittens, and if I don’t, therefore I am a bad person.
Because their beef is acknowledging a larger reality they have self-selected out of, and apparently that upsets them very much that someone else acknowledges it.
It’s your business if you want to stick your head in the sand, proverbially. But you cross a line when you start attacking other people for not doing the same thing as you, or for them acknowledging.
I’ll give you a separate example. On another site I comment on, I told a story about an accident I witnessed where a man killed his dog. This was in context of a social media promotional video with people doing dangerous outdoor activist with dogs because it is ‘bad ass’.
Some people acknowledge my concerns… and about half the comments were personal attacks against me telling me how I was a horrible person for sharing such a horrible story and I should go kill myself because I clearly am an animal abuser if I acknowledge that arrogance and ignorance in the outdoors with your dog can lead to injury and death.
more or less. this is precisely why so many people thought Trump would not be elected and were shocked he got elected twice.
they were living in a bubble world totally ignorant of how the other half of their country was living. including most of the media. they also systematically deny the problems in this country that fueled the rise of the alt-right and the expansion of hate-group, again because they live in a cultural bubble where these problems don’t exist.
those of us who were paying attention to how other people live, think, and vote, were not at all surprised at his victories.
Just so I’m getting this straight,
Being in control of your feed = “echo chambering yourself”.
Looking at everything = “very angry people flooding the platform with their negativity and extremist views”.
your interpreting my comment into a false dichotomy.
people here are simply pissed that i’m acknowledging the existence of a userbase that is problematic. that userbase would be here regardless of my blocking them or not. because of them, they dont’ exist because of their own highly curated experience and self-selection into an echo chamber communities.
and this is because… those echo chamber users are the very same people.
they are practicing three monkeys philosophy, if they pretend to not see it, it doesn’t exist. if someone tells them it exists, then that person is the evil person. if someone points it how and shows it to them, they block that person because they can’t acknowledge it’s existence or the existence of anyone who would acknowledge it.
Not everyone is using this platform for news and political opinions. Some people are here for hobbies and general entertainment. It’s not “echo chambering” yourself if you are filtering out content that is not relevant to your use case.
yeah but you don’t get to do that for other people.
that is where the dispute here seems to be.
i acknowledge a certain issue with the users on this site broadly speaking, and the reply is ‘well you are just stupid if you don’t block yourself off from ‘negative content’’.
like, if you are only here for hobbies and etc, why are you in this community? because you’re going to encounter stuff outside of that here. and if that is upsetting or disturbing to you, then you should self-select out of it. rather than try to harass and browbeat other people into compliance with your use of the site.
some of us are here for news and politics and viewpoints outside of our own on a plurality of topics. we don’t see their existence as a threat to own own inner peace or whatever and celebrate diversity of opinion and perspectives outside of our own.
i mean anyone can block me, that’s cool. i block people too. But thinking these people, ideas, and communities ‘disappear’ just because you don’t see them is straight up delusional… and yet folks in this thread are claiming this is the ‘only way’ to use this site. it isn’t.
We’re on the same page. The people who don’t get it I dont’ think ever will. But I’m glad I"m not the only one seeing how damaging and counter productive for us to think it’s ever a good idea to go around blocking anything we don’t like.
echo chambering yourself isn’t healthy or productive. it just makes you ignorant about what is going on around you.
I am not interested in protecting my feelings and surrounding myself only with people who reflect my own beliefs back at me. I’m interested in diversity and understanding other points of view, even those I disagree with.
for me knowledge is the antidote, not ‘positive vibes only’.
If subscribing to one’s own interests is an ‘echo chamber’, then all of us are guilty. If you are going to immerse yourself in ‘diversity and understanding’ by dunking yourself headfirst into the totality of the human condition without any filters whatsoever…well, you get what you deserve, I guess.
You’re standing on a beach with your back to an oncoming tsunami as if your pleasant view is going to last forever.
You know, I think people have many different interests and reasons for why they use social media platforms. Some are just hobbyists and use it for those purposes and thus curate and control a feed that emphasises their interests. Is that bad?
No. But it’s bad if they insist and harass other people who don’t use the platform the same way they do, or deny/refuse to acknowledge other types of users and problems exist, just because they have curated it out of their experience.
It’s not any different than a white person claiming the cops never bother them, so clearly this BLM thing is totally made up nonsense and these silly black people should stop complaining about police profiling and brutality towards black people.
People generally, really really struggle, with the concept that other people are different than them. For whatever reason, they seem to view other people’s differences, and difference experiences and concerns, as THREATS to themselves, and respond with hostility, often under the ‘let me help you you ignorant fool’ guise.
I mean, i block those people frequently, but man they exist in abundance here. Far more so than in my most of my reddit experience, but similar to my reddit experience from 2020-2022 when my post about my cat sitting on my porch got me banned for inciting violence, because outdoor cats are all mass murders and I am also one if I let my cat on my porch.
I don’t think this is happening though. I think you’re boxing at shadows.
Yeah, if you curate your feed to not see things, you won’t think they are happening.
That’s the problem with all social media platforms. People self-select into their own little worlds, and think anyone outside of that world is ‘boxing at shadows’. Or they convince themselves that they are heroic warriors on a holy war against Microsoft, etc.
Personally, I enjoy the ability to go into other communities and see what is going on there. I prefer to investigate things myself, than rely on hearsay and dwell in ignorance and denial that thinks I don’t know about or experience don’t exist.
Okay? I mean The Threadiverse isn’t necessarily the only place people on here expose themselves to.
You just complained that people complain about how others use the platform, and now you’re here right now lecturing on others if they choose to curate their feeds and only follow their subscribed communities.
No. I’m complaining about people complaining at me that I don’t curate my feed to be puppies and kittens, and if I don’t, therefore I am a bad person.
Because their beef is acknowledging a larger reality they have self-selected out of, and apparently that upsets them very much that someone else acknowledges it.
It’s your business if you want to stick your head in the sand, proverbially. But you cross a line when you start attacking other people for not doing the same thing as you, or for them acknowledging.
I’ll give you a separate example. On another site I comment on, I told a story about an accident I witnessed where a man killed his dog. This was in context of a social media promotional video with people doing dangerous outdoor activist with dogs because it is ‘bad ass’.
Some people acknowledge my concerns… and about half the comments were personal attacks against me telling me how I was a horrible person for sharing such a horrible story and I should go kill myself because I clearly am an animal abuser if I acknowledge that arrogance and ignorance in the outdoors with your dog can lead to injury and death.
more or less. this is precisely why so many people thought Trump would not be elected and were shocked he got elected twice.
they were living in a bubble world totally ignorant of how the other half of their country was living. including most of the media. they also systematically deny the problems in this country that fueled the rise of the alt-right and the expansion of hate-group, again because they live in a cultural bubble where these problems don’t exist.
those of us who were paying attention to how other people live, think, and vote, were not at all surprised at his victories.
Just so I’m getting this straight,
Being in control of your feed = “echo chambering yourself”.
Looking at everything = “very angry people flooding the platform with their negativity and extremist views”.
You do you.
No. you’re not getting it straight.
your interpreting my comment into a false dichotomy.
people here are simply pissed that i’m acknowledging the existence of a userbase that is problematic. that userbase would be here regardless of my blocking them or not. because of them, they dont’ exist because of their own highly curated experience and self-selection into an echo chamber communities.
and this is because… those echo chamber users are the very same people.
they are practicing three monkeys philosophy, if they pretend to not see it, it doesn’t exist. if someone tells them it exists, then that person is the evil person. if someone points it how and shows it to them, they block that person because they can’t acknowledge it’s existence or the existence of anyone who would acknowledge it.
Not everyone is using this platform for news and political opinions. Some people are here for hobbies and general entertainment. It’s not “echo chambering” yourself if you are filtering out content that is not relevant to your use case.
yeah but you don’t get to do that for other people.
that is where the dispute here seems to be.
i acknowledge a certain issue with the users on this site broadly speaking, and the reply is ‘well you are just stupid if you don’t block yourself off from ‘negative content’’.
like, if you are only here for hobbies and etc, why are you in this community? because you’re going to encounter stuff outside of that here. and if that is upsetting or disturbing to you, then you should self-select out of it. rather than try to harass and browbeat other people into compliance with your use of the site.
some of us are here for news and politics and viewpoints outside of our own on a plurality of topics. we don’t see their existence as a threat to own own inner peace or whatever and celebrate diversity of opinion and perspectives outside of our own.
i mean anyone can block me, that’s cool. i block people too. But thinking these people, ideas, and communities ‘disappear’ just because you don’t see them is straight up delusional… and yet folks in this thread are claiming this is the ‘only way’ to use this site. it isn’t.
We’re on the same page. The people who don’t get it I dont’ think ever will. But I’m glad I"m not the only one seeing how damaging and counter productive for us to think it’s ever a good idea to go around blocking anything we don’t like.