• chunes@lemmy.world
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      33 minutes ago

      I got severe pushback from a nurse for saying DNR when I was last in the hospital. It seems that healthcare workers often possess no ethics, standards, or intellect in the USA.

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      Not just allowed, actively pushed to do so.

      The doctor she goes to did it, just decided that it was against his religion for her to decide to go on hospice care.

      Even if he would allow it, in order for her to get on hospice, her doctor would have to go in front of an ethics committee and argue for her to be allowed to go on hospice. If anyone on the ethics committee objects, she isn’t allowed.

      California has a right-to-die law (one of very few states that does). You are allowed to die if your doctor can prove that your disease will kill you in 6 months, that you are coherent (at the time of death, you cant sign anything beforehand for it), if you are capable of taking the suicide pills without assistance.

      The doctor has to document that you made two separate distinct verbal requests, 48 hours apart. Has to document that your disease will kill you in 6 months, has to document that you are able to take the pills on your own with no assistance (too weak to die? too bad). The case is automatically reviewed (and they will try to take away the doctors license every time).

      And anyone involved is allowed to stop you if they object on any grounds.

      Killing yourself is a sin in most versions of Christianity, so its effectively illegal in most of the country, and any doctor that is willing to let you has to really really work to not get their license taken and them thrown in jail.

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          3 hours ago

          True.

          But Hospice is generally required to get to assisted suicide tho.

          Or at least, it was when my dad finally got to die.

          The normal doctor wouldn’t do it, the hospital didnt allow it except for in hospice.

          And then we had to fight for a week to get the hospice doctor to let him die.

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      8 hours ago

      They don’t. They base their decision on religion, but they justify it with big medical and sciencey words. But they’ll tell you it’s due to their faith (if they’re so bold).

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        8 hours ago

        My grandmas doctor just straight up said that killing yourself is a sin and its against his religion to help her commit a sin when she asked to go on hospice.