[green, speaking, looking smug]
Okay, hear me out, here’s the plan…
We go full apathy, basically we let capitalism fully spiral out into fascism. Once it’s done, people will rise up and the system will collapse under its own weight. From its ashes, with our help, a better society will rise. This is how we win.
[we now see that green is tied up in front of a bleak wall, along with a group of other people, being aimed at by a firing squad of characters in fascist uniforms]
[green, smiling] OK?
[blue, pissed] Dude…
This is kinda mostly a strawman though, no serious political movement advocates for accelerationism, it’s just a strawman used against people further to the left than oneself.
There are a few weird fringe cults who are accelerationist like Posadists (who believe nuclear war or aliens will bring communism), but it’s not by any means a position that holds a good footing in any serious political project.
The strawman often takes claims like “there is not a big practical difference between these two political parties” and twists them into “I would rather have the worse party win”. Also takes descriptive statements like “people usually revolt when hungry” and attributes an intentionality to them, like “I wish more people would go hungry so that they starve more”, as if making an observation about the nature of protest and revolt implied supporting the conditions that create it.
A lot of the far right is accelerationist. They’ve been hoping for a “race war” for many decades. Then there is the newer Effective Accelerationism/Network State/Dark Enlightenment stuff that the ultra wealthy seem to be into.
Wow…a race war would not go well for the far right.
When I hear “far right”, I think of middle aged angry white guys. We already HAD that war! At least in the united states…it was in the 1800s, and it did not go well for those who supported racial discrimination.
And that’s underselling the whole thing quite a bit.
Didn’t exactly go horribly for them either. Reconstruction ended early and a lot of concessions were made on behalf of “the economy” and “unifying the nation”.
They should have let Sherman finish what he started.
Yes and no, the confederates lost the war but their whitewashing of history has quite a bit of staying power to the point that states like West Virginia and Ohio who had massively supported the Union in the Civil War are now more likely neo confederates and agree with the south take on “the war of northern aggression” which they started by attacking federal forces and raiding federal weapons depots while backing out of the federal government allowing it to pass a law they cite as the reason they backed out of it, rather than it being able to pass because they backed out. Also the war still left separate but equal and racial discrimination on the books and the last chattel slave in the US was freed during world war 2. So what the south (Pro-confederate states) and Americans who swallowed their propaganda learned was that fighting a war without seeding the ground everywhere first with their point of view and taking over things from the inside, like they did under Wilson, arguably the worst US president of the 20th century, and Trump just took that playbook and took it farther than the public was ready for but still pushed and those special interest groups that supported him had the choice to renounce him and be reviled by both major political wings of the US or back him to the hilt while he destroys the US from within, because if you can’t get everything you want at least you can make sure nobody else gets anything either.
That’s a good point. I grew up in rural Ohio a couple decades ago, and confederate flags were quite popular. In my youth, I remember going to one guy’s trailer to bring back some more beer, and every threshold in his trailer had a confederate flag. Many of the people in the little, almost all-white towns, were somewhat afraid of the somewhat bigger towns that had a decent black population. I still see similar things where I live now, where my older neighbors living outside of a major city, are somewhat afraid of the city. Curiously, I live in the actual south now, and don’t see confederate flags nearly as often than I did in rural Ohio.
idk, I feel like in particular the arguments I’ve had advocating for UBI with people arguing against it from a left wing perspective, those arguments often tend to be basically accelerationist (that it would be bad to improve things for people in a way that enables the continued existence of capitalism) or at least gesture at that. And as others have pointed out, the right is even more outwardly accelerationist.
Aren’t all the Plantir people (well people with money high up) epushing for an accelerationist movement with their stuff? I would think the billionaires are serious is all. Mean it sounds freaking stupid to me but I don’t have the bullhorn that the people who have all our private data does is all. However with the US they’re using project 2025 as a starting point before they buy up everything after it breaks. Least that’s what it appears, mean the VP is picked, groomed and supported by Theil. Just have to let them break enough then swoop in and mould a society they wanted. It’s not something 99.99% of what people would want from what I can tell.
Perhaps I’m missing some subtly which I will say I haven’t really looked into the definitions a lot but I don’t think with current forces is as much of a strawman as it may seem is all. Though I don’t think people on that side would want the same outcome as Mr Green is all.
I mean, the post says “capitalism bad” so I assumed that the green man is not from the right wing.
The right wing is not really collapsing the system IMO, they’re just taking off its mask and showing how it truly is and has been.
Yea, the right wing aren’t destroying the system as people seem to claim. They are just moving it into the next stage of its logical evolution.
Fascism is Capitalism in decay. We have already reached Late Stage Capitalism, and now the Imperial boomerang is coming home. We did this to ourselves by not dismantling it sooner. We tried in the early 1900s with the communist and anarchist worker movements that occurred but then McCarthyism and the 2nd Red Scare really fucked everything up.
Couldn’t agree more
I believe nuclear war will bring a better planet.
I mean, there will be no more humans alive, but thats what will make the planet better!