TBF they might just not live in America. Never really seen “loitering” being a thing outside of that mistake of a country, or at least I haven’t seen it enforced and I’ve been everywhere in Western Europe (where one would assume these things are more enforced since they’re culturally closer, idk).
Yes its an american thing. I can sit where I want in my country, unless its blocking some entrance or something.
Its because in America, you are not a human being. Someone should have informed you.
Another thing ive seen in American movies - people are not allowed to park and sleep in their cars it seems. There is always some officer walking up and knocking on their window and telling them they cant be there. Seems to be another sign of America.
Yep, a lot of it is hostility to unhoused people, based on the myth that “they are all ‘psychotic drunk drug addicts’ that are horrible people”, hence why people believe they are (and deserve to be) unhoused. It’s why hostile architecture is so common and ingrained in the US.
It makes sense from the American culture point of view, that someone who makes money is a winner and someone who doesnt is a loser. Its a view of people that is pretty evil.
I cannot think of a single place within 20 miles in any direction that is not indoors nor private property that any human being cannot be more or less indefinitely.
You can’t camp within like 250 ft vertical of the treeline. That’s off limits for protecting the environment reasons.
If you’re pulled over in a car I the side of the road, a state trooper may come to see if you’re ok. Our states troopers got a much better rep than our cops, and our cops don’t do too bad comparatively.
You’re in New England aren’t you? BTW if this ends up being true, I actually didn’t stalk your profile to see. I am originally from MA and one of my favorite things about NE, and specifically MA, is that even the most rural spaces have pride flags and very progressive. It’s actually the suburban sprawl areas that are more purple, but not enough to turn any part of the stage red.
I fucking love the Berkshires and some day I am moving out there, that’s a promise I will keep to myself no matter how chaotic life gets, obviously so long as I am able to control it (eg, not drafted, don’t have to flee the nation, am not abducted by the modern S.A (ICE), etc)
My family is all over northern NY, and New England, Some PA and WV as well. Even the conservative pockets here are good between authority and your right to exist outdoors.
I just wish the neolib gun laws weren’t so insane. They know it’s treating a fever when the person is dying from sepsis, and they know capitalism and hyper-individualism is the disease, but these politicians make SOO much money off the system. They also know they can ausage the fears of NIMBYs and suburban white libs with some simple platitudes, get reelected, and continue making bank.
BTW, I’m not advocating for handing every person who walks into a shop a gun immediately, but as a leftist, I am against disarming the working class.
I was thinking New England too. I grew up in maine and there are very few places you’re banned from loitering. The cops, while still being fascist dirtbags, aren’t as bad as in more populous states.
LOVE Maine!! I need to visit Arcadia some time. I remember the first time I saw a full grown, wild moose was in Maine along a highway, we were pretty far north (probably about halfway up the state latitude wise), and she was HUGE. She had her fowl with her, and the baby was still the size of a freaking great dane.
Are you white?
TBF they might just not live in America. Never really seen “loitering” being a thing outside of that mistake of a country, or at least I haven’t seen it enforced and I’ve been everywhere in Western Europe (where one would assume these things are more enforced since they’re culturally closer, idk).
Yes its an american thing. I can sit where I want in my country, unless its blocking some entrance or something.
Its because in America, you are not a human being. Someone should have informed you.
Another thing ive seen in American movies - people are not allowed to park and sleep in their cars it seems. There is always some officer walking up and knocking on their window and telling them they cant be there. Seems to be another sign of America.
Yep, a lot of it is hostility to unhoused people, based on the myth that “they are all ‘psychotic drunk drug addicts’ that are horrible people”, hence why people believe they are (and deserve to be) unhoused. It’s why hostile architecture is so common and ingrained in the US.
Also, Racism of course.
It makes sense from the American culture point of view, that someone who makes money is a winner and someone who doesnt is a loser. Its a view of people that is pretty evil.
100%
Fuck prosperity gospel, it and racism are so deeply ingrained in this country, and cause so many of our societal issues
No, I’m rural in liberal territory.
I cannot think of a single place within 20 miles in any direction that is not indoors nor private property that any human being cannot be more or less indefinitely.
You can’t camp within like 250 ft vertical of the treeline. That’s off limits for protecting the environment reasons.
If you’re pulled over in a car I the side of the road, a state trooper may come to see if you’re ok. Our states troopers got a much better rep than our cops, and our cops don’t do too bad comparatively.
Acab, but know your enemy. It ain’t the outdoors.
You’re in New England aren’t you? BTW if this ends up being true, I actually didn’t stalk your profile to see. I am originally from MA and one of my favorite things about NE, and specifically MA, is that even the most rural spaces have pride flags and very progressive. It’s actually the suburban sprawl areas that are more purple, but not enough to turn any part of the stage red.
I fucking love the Berkshires and some day I am moving out there, that’s a promise I will keep to myself no matter how chaotic life gets, obviously so long as I am able to control it (eg, not drafted, don’t have to flee the nation, am not abducted by the modern S.A (ICE), etc)
My family is all over northern NY, and New England, Some PA and WV as well. Even the conservative pockets here are good between authority and your right to exist outdoors.
I just wish the neolib gun laws weren’t so insane. They know it’s treating a fever when the person is dying from sepsis, and they know capitalism and hyper-individualism is the disease, but these politicians make SOO much money off the system. They also know they can ausage the fears of NIMBYs and suburban white libs with some simple platitudes, get reelected, and continue making bank.
BTW, I’m not advocating for handing every person who walks into a shop a gun immediately, but as a leftist, I am against disarming the working class.
I assumed they’re Canadian based on liberal territory. However that doesn’t narrow it down much, looks like most of the territories vote red.
I was thinking New England too. I grew up in maine and there are very few places you’re banned from loitering. The cops, while still being fascist dirtbags, aren’t as bad as in more populous states.
LOVE Maine!! I need to visit Arcadia some time. I remember the first time I saw a full grown, wild moose was in Maine along a highway, we were pretty far north (probably about halfway up the state latitude wise), and she was HUGE. She had her fowl with her, and the baby was still the size of a freaking great dane.
Did the goalposts just move?
Nope. They’ve been this way since the 1700s.