What did Thomas Jefferson say about each generation’s struggle for liberty?

  • disregardable@lemmy.zip
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    1 day ago

    Thomas Jefferson owned over 600 slaves. You can’t be comfortable in life without people beneath you making your life comfortable.

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      23 hours ago

      Imo if comfort was binary then that might be true. Comfort is a spectrum though and comfort is dynamic. People sacrifice some comfort to be more comfortable later. That sacrifice might make others more comfortable now or may make things more comfortable in the future. People have to consent to these sacrifices and be adequately compensated. Anything else is exploitation of some degree

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      You can’t be comfortable in life without people beneath you making your life comfortable.

      Hard disagree.

      There’s more than enough for all of us to be comfortable…

      The problem is a couple thousand people have hoarded the majority of the planets resources.

      The problem is the billionaires, not people getting fucked less than the people getting fucked the most

      Take care of the billionaires, then after redistributing their wealth, we’ll see what else needs to be done. But literally everyone else will be more amenable then than they are now.

      That’s just common sense, keep as many people on your side till the biggest issue is handled.

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        No matter how you distribute income, it is never going to be comfortable to pick pineapples, slaughter animals, weld metal, repair sewers, or arrest criminals. Comfort is simply not in the job description. Someone has to lose. We can’t all be software developers and artists.

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          What?!

          Plenty of people would be willing to contribute some labor towards society…

          You legitimately think if everyone’s needs were met past the limits of basic and I to the “comfortable” range, absolutely no one would want to be productive?

          That is just…

          The most depressing view on humanity I’ve heard in a long time, but I guess Republicans and neoliberals have been making that argument against welfare for decades now. Just weird to see on lemmy

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            This response is weird. It’s like you ignored what I wrote completely and only wanted to read some completely different stereotypical point.

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                6 hours ago

                Disregardable vs Givesomefucks. You two chose usernames on the opposite ends of apathy and action. That this person engages in performative debate should not be surprising, either they think themselves disregardable or they are telling you upfront what the merit of any response you offer will be.

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                  3 hours ago

                  By that same logic, it would make sense for me to ask you why the coyotes who cut thru my yard do it single file spaced ~30 feet apart…

                  So I’m gonna ask, because it’s fucking weird and I genuinely can’t figure out why them walking out of a bush is like a bunch of clowns getting out of a car, it’s just goes on way longer than possible. That bush can’t hold a dozen coyotes, so are they queuing up on the other side?

                  Is the delay how long it takes to go thru a bush? If so why don’t they just walk around all at once?

                  You’re literally the only back alley coyote I’ve seen capable of human communication, loop me in bro.

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                    Only one is the real coyote, the rest are Acme brand automated decoys so the roadrunner doesn’t know which to run from.

                    But actually, what you are probably seeing is a stealth move. Most of what coyotes hunt don’t have the benefit of our height and field of vision, one coyote at a time looks like one coyote instead of a pack. Also reduces the sound of the pack moving if everyone goes down the same trail. When you see them doing this they’re probably not even hunting, but moving around their territory while trying to remain unobtrusive.

                    Coyotes pack structure was misunderstood up until about 50yrs ago. They have always been capable of forming packs, and like wolves their default is family. You probably see mom or dad go first, then younger, then the other parent. Compared to wolves though they are not as strict about how they build a pack, they have more fluid membership and killing one of the mating pair is not as detrimental to the survival of the pack as it is for wolves. Plus, coyote diet makes them much scrappier survivors if they have to go solo.

                    Out of curiosity, is your home rural, suburban, or urban? Their base nature remains the same but they adjust to environment. I’m going to lean on this being a well established route they know is safe for moving between the den, water, and food, but they also know there’s neighborhood dogs, traffic patterns, humans that might chase/harm them, and are just doing what they’ve always done to minimize risks.