• GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    I walked into a Best Buy last fall just to kind of browse the computers on offer. The sales rep recommended a laptop (Asus, I think) with 16gb of RAM, saying he actually even got his aunt one of the same model he was recommending to me.

    That’s insane. What the fuck is going on in these big tech companies that people are recommending 16gb of RAM for aunties and normies?

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    Rhetorical question, the answers are: mega-reliance on webviews, every mid-level PM having to ship “features” to justify their position and to climb the corporate ladder, and every UI designer getting the brain-sickness that’s rounded-corners and animations everywhere, while some VP of product insisting on more ads and user-tracking. Add “agentic” aka slop coding to cap a decade of learn-2-code bootcamp 2nd-rate programmers who vigorously studied Cracking the Coding Interview without properly understanding the fundamentals… and voila!

    That’s the splendid thing about the Neo. Apple is saying ok, we know it’s only 8GB of RAM, but through the service life of the laptop we can ensure that that will give you a good desktop experience.

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      8GB RAM

      I knew it!

      What a bunch of cheap bastards. It’s windows 1GB RAM all over again (it’s so you can’t use the pc to do important things).

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      2 days ago

      What the fuck is going on in these big tech companies that people are recommending 16gb of RAM for aunties and normies?

      Uhhhh 16GB RAM should be the bare minimum, what are you on about?

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        Why? Were we incapable of using computers 10-14 years ago when 2-8gb were standard? 16 gigabyte computer to log into email, instagram, and facebook. Give me a break.

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          LOL are you serious?

          I dunno about you but I’m not running a 10+ year old OS, nor 10+ year old software. You may not have noticed but times have changed…

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            Yeah, now every “desktop app” is a shitty website that bundles its own copy of chromium. Progress!

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            2016: most people just do some web browsing, videos, and documents.
            2026: most people just do some web browsing, videos, and documents

            But I like your take. You’re right. Software should linearly get bloated and slower as a function based on time.

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              LOL web browsing and videos are both very different than they were 10 years ago, for the aforementioned reasons. I didn’t say anything about what “should” happen, this is just reality.

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      Apple has been optimizing macOS for underpowered machines for a long time.

      Testing a bunch of linux distros on old intel macbooks has shown me that apple is really good with resource management on their vertically integrated hardware, even with greedy daemons like identityserverd or whatever it is, trolling through your drive cataloguing faces in your photos all the time, and the relentless indexing system, and telemetry.

      Most models work smoothly most of the time, even the little 11" Air with 4GB, doing standard basic user stuff, and the 2020 1.1 GHz i3 Air is somehow usable on macOS 15, basically current.

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        Testing a bunch of linux distros on old intel macbooks has shown me that apple is really good with resource management on their vertically integrated hardware, even with greedy daemons like identityserverd or whatever it is, trolling through your drive cataloguing faces in your photos all the time, and the relentless indexing system, and telemetry.

        It’s really amazing to me how little power MacOS uses in normal use, compared to running Linux on the same machine. The Asahi Linux project also has documented a ton of interesting bits of hardware that MacOS makes use of, pretty seamlessly, that they’ve gotta figure out.

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        2 days ago

        mediaanalysisd loves to go brrr. They certainly handle close-to-OOM situations more nicely than most Linux distros with their growable swap