• mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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      There is no such thing as generated CSAM, because the term exists specifically to distinguish anything made-up from photographic evidence of child rape. This term was already developed to stop people from lumping together Simpsons rule 34 with the kind of images you report to the FBI. Please do not make us choose yet another label, which you would also dilute.

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        7 months ago

        Generating images of a minor can certainly fulfill the definition of CSAM. It’s a child, It’s sexual, It’s abusive, It’s material. It’s CSAM dude.

        These are the images you report to the FBI. Your narrow definition is not the definition. We don’t need to make a separate term because it still impacts the minor even if it’s fake. I say this as a somewhat annoying prescriptivist pedant.

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          7 months ago

          There cannot be material from the sexual abuse of a child if that sexual abuse did not fucking happen. The term does not mean ‘shit what looks like it could be from the abuse of some child I guess.’ It means, state’s evidence of actual crimes.

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                7 months ago

                You’re the only one using that definition. There is no stipulation that it’s from something that happened.

                Where is your definition coming from?

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                  7 months ago

                  My definition is from what words mean.

                  We need a term to specifically refer to actual photographs of actual child abuse. What the fuck are we supposed to call that, such that schmucks won’t use the same label to refer to drawings?

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                    7 months ago

                    I already did the “what words mean” thing earlier.

                    -involves a child
                    -is sexual
                    -is abusive (here’s your Simpsons exclusion, btw)
                    -is material

                    That’s literally every word of CSAM, and it fits.

                    We need a term to specifically refer to actual photographs of actual child abuse

                    Why? You’ve made a whole lot of claims it should be your way but you’ve provided no sources nor any justification as to why we need to delineate between real and AI.