the question is “why”. as in 'why would you kll it" and if the answer is almost any justification (for food, for clothing, for medicine), then it’s probably fine. everything dies and if their death serves some purpose, that’s good.
Hey, would you be fine if I kill you with a justification? For example, I like your stuff, will it be OK if I kill you and take your stuff? What if I also eat your leg, will it be better or worse?
Carl Cohen said “Speciesism is not merely plausible; it is essential for right conduct, because those who will not make the morally relevant distinctions among species are almost certain, in consequence, to misapprehend their true obligations.” and you are demonstrating this for everyone right here
You’re on the same level of evangelism, it’s just you’re advocating both for status quo, which is ew, gross, but also for killing animals, which is a bit evil.
I know you’re probably not doing it for real, but I will answer as if you’re actually that alien that dropped out of parallel universe where suffering doesn’t exist, and trying to understand our customs.
Killing animals for food and clothing in a world where alternatives exist, is bringing unnecessary suffering in the world. This can happen either because you don’t care about bringing unnecessary suffering, or because you don’t recognise it’s existence. Both are kind of the definition of bad.
Killing animals for food and clothing in a world where alternatives exist, is bringing unnecessary suffering in the world
Nope. It is a perfectly natural thing to do.
Now, see how much evangelical vegans resemble of other religions?:
“Not believing in the real God in a world where fake religions exist, is a blasfemy which is bringing condemnation for your eternal soul and will cause unnecessary suffering in the real world after”
Didn’t say it was unnatural. Eating each other is very natural. Brain eating amoeba is natural, cancer is natural. Hot shower and antibiotics aren’t. We recognize however that cancer we don’t like, despite it’s naturality, and medicine we do like, despite it’s artificial nature.
Your weird, what I assume attempt at gotcha with religions out of nowhere, I am not touching with a gloved pole, it’s between you and your therapist.
Wait, so you’re actually trying to unironically make a “potato is alive therefore vegans dumb” argument, for real? Fuck, sorry, I didn’t realise what I’m actually dealing with here.
If you don’t see ethical differences between killing a live creature and not doing so, your ethical compass is basically non-existent.
the question is “why”. as in 'why would you kll it" and if the answer is almost any justification (for food, for clothing, for medicine), then it’s probably fine. everything dies and if their death serves some purpose, that’s good.
Hey, would you be fine if I kill you with a justification? For example, I like your stuff, will it be OK if I kill you and take your stuff? What if I also eat your leg, will it be better or worse?
Carl Cohen said “Speciesism is not merely plausible; it is essential for right conduct, because those who will not make the morally relevant distinctions among species are almost certain, in consequence, to misapprehend their true obligations.” and you are demonstrating this for everyone right here
“If you don’t see ethical differences between our real faith and other fake religions, your ethical compass is basically non-existent!”
Another evangelical vegan 🙄
You’re on the same level of evangelism, it’s just you’re advocating both for status quo, which is ew, gross, but also for killing animals, which is a bit evil.
Says who?
Evangelical vegans are certainly unpleasant and deeply disturbed individuals. Not sure if I would call them gross though.
If you don’t understand why killing is bad, no amount of “no u” arguments and senseless namecalling will ever hide your deep weirdness.
No, I don’t understand why killing animals for food or clothing is bad. That’s probably because it isn’t.
I know you’re probably not doing it for real, but I will answer as if you’re actually that alien that dropped out of parallel universe where suffering doesn’t exist, and trying to understand our customs.
Killing animals for food and clothing in a world where alternatives exist, is bringing unnecessary suffering in the world. This can happen either because you don’t care about bringing unnecessary suffering, or because you don’t recognise it’s existence. Both are kind of the definition of bad.
Nope. It is a perfectly natural thing to do.
Now, see how much evangelical vegans resemble of other religions?:
“Not believing in the real God in a world where fake religions exist, is a blasfemy which is bringing condemnation for your eternal soul and will cause unnecessary suffering in the real world after”
Didn’t say it was unnatural. Eating each other is very natural. Brain eating amoeba is natural, cancer is natural. Hot shower and antibiotics aren’t. We recognize however that cancer we don’t like, despite it’s naturality, and medicine we do like, despite it’s artificial nature.
Your weird, what I assume attempt at gotcha with religions out of nowhere, I am not touching with a gloved pole, it’s between you and your therapist.
some vegans will twist themselves into pretzels to justify crop deaths for the things they consume. or, put another way, vegans justify crop deaths.
Wait, so you’re actually trying to unironically make a “potato is alive therefore vegans dumb” argument, for real? Fuck, sorry, I didn’t realise what I’m actually dealing with here.
this is a strawman.