• Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    What?? Do you have an android phone? Google is so deeply integrated that you can’t even disable uninstall it.

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      1 day ago

      I do have an android phone.

      There is no google on it by default. Have you ever installed android before? By default, it’s without gapps. You have to download an extra package even to get the google crap on it.

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            9 hours ago

            huh, never heard of that one, I’ll add it to the list, always good to have backup options.

            In reply to to other points further up:

            Android isn’t Google.

            Yes it is, both the Wikipedia and the official website both state this.

            I don’t mean to get in to a slap fight but it’s not really a subjective issue, android is still owned/run by google.

            Though they didn’t create it iirc, it was bought while it was still quite young.

            Have you ever installed android before? By default, it’s without gapps.

            Also not true, the official android comes with GMS and the Play suite (services, store etc).

            Though there are places where some of the Play suite apps are not allowed to be bundled (iirc china does this), the default is still to include them.

            Given that you’re mentioning lineageOS then i’m assuming you mean the AOSP which afaict does indeed come without the GMS + normal google bs.

            While both are “official”, I can’t think of any reasonable metric where the AOSP (and it’s forks/derivatives) would be considered the the default.

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        1 day ago

        Pretty much all phones comes pre-installed with Android and completely tie to google with no easy way to get rid of it. Android is essentially develop by Google, open source or not, I’m not gonna waste time on rhetorical arguments on this.

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          1 day ago

          Pretty much all laptops come pre-installed with Windows, but it’s best practice to wipe and reinstall the OS immediately after you buy it

          Same applies to cell phones.

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            1 day ago

            Definitely not as simple to wipe out a phone as it is for a computer, and anyway most phones like Samsung are hard locked. I’m probably more geek than 95% of the population but never could do it.