The only point I’m trying to make in this thread about Briahna is that Briahna was wrong to suppress turnout, which you agree with.
You claim that she was trying to suppress turnout, but centrists say that shit about everyone with even the slightest problem with genocide.
We also agree on everything else,
Then say harris shouldn’t have supported genocide. I don’t think you can. You’ll happily admit she did, but you won’t admit she lost a single vote by doing so. That was only the fault of those evil voters and the malicious critics of the genocide wing that is incapable of doing anything wrong ever.
What is your claim? Did you watch the video? The entire conversation between her and Contrapoints was about this specific topic: whether to vote for Harris in the general or not. They are both left leaning political activists, they were discussing general election strategy, as I’ve continued to do in the thread related to that conversation.
Read what you’ve written. I did. Not once have you admitted that harris was wrong in the slightest to support genocide.
It’s all “but trump’s worse!” and “but people were discouraging others from voting!”
Harris was wrong to support genocide. Whether trump is worse is immaterial. She wasn’t failed by an electorate that demands perfection. She failed an electorate that had generous, reasonable standards she was unwilling to meet. “Don’t support genocide” isn’t demanding perfection. It’s expecting the tiniest sliver of basic human decency, and somehow that’s too much to ask. So she lost. The electorate isn’t going to fall line next time either. That’s not me discouraging voting; that’s me looking at reality.
Harris’ support of genocide was not the sole factor to her losing, activists like Briahna played a role as well as a million other factors. Harris should’ve been better, Briahna should’ve been better. In this thread about Briahna, I’m focusing on what Briahna and other activists could’ve done better. You will not engage with that, you are trying to have a different conversation, another one in which we agree, but is not the focus of this conversation between Contrapoints and Briahna. And you’re strawmanning so hard about my views outside of Briahna, I don’t think you’re arguing in good faith.
This is the closest you’ve come to saying that Harris shouldn’t have supported genocide in this thread. Still not there. Who’s stopping you from saying that Harris shouldn’t have supported genocide?
You have yet to give your thoughts on the video, which activist you agree with, a single response to their arguments, you have yet to type the words ‘Briahna’ or ‘Contrapoints’ yet in this very long thread about Briahna and Contrapoints. You are being evasive.
You claim that she was trying to suppress turnout, but centrists say that shit about everyone with even the slightest problem with genocide.
Then say harris shouldn’t have supported genocide. I don’t think you can. You’ll happily admit she did, but you won’t admit she lost a single vote by doing so. That was only the fault of those evil voters and the malicious critics of the genocide wing that is incapable of doing anything wrong ever.
What is your claim? Did you watch the video? The entire conversation between her and Contrapoints was about this specific topic: whether to vote for Harris in the general or not. They are both left leaning political activists, they were discussing general election strategy, as I’ve continued to do in the thread related to that conversation.
Harris was wrong to support genocide and you will never admit it.
I have to have ‘admitted’ that a dozen times now, you won’t listen.
Read what you’ve written. I did. Not once have you admitted that harris was wrong in the slightest to support genocide.
It’s all “but trump’s worse!” and “but people were discouraging others from voting!”
Harris was wrong to support genocide. Whether trump is worse is immaterial. She wasn’t failed by an electorate that demands perfection. She failed an electorate that had generous, reasonable standards she was unwilling to meet. “Don’t support genocide” isn’t demanding perfection. It’s expecting the tiniest sliver of basic human decency, and somehow that’s too much to ask. So she lost. The electorate isn’t going to fall line next time either. That’s not me discouraging voting; that’s me looking at reality.
Harris’ support of genocide was not the sole factor to her losing, activists like Briahna played a role as well as a million other factors. Harris should’ve been better, Briahna should’ve been better. In this thread about Briahna, I’m focusing on what Briahna and other activists could’ve done better. You will not engage with that, you are trying to have a different conversation, another one in which we agree, but is not the focus of this conversation between Contrapoints and Briahna. And you’re strawmanning so hard about my views outside of Briahna, I don’t think you’re arguing in good faith.
This is the closest you’ve come to saying that Harris shouldn’t have supported genocide in this thread. Still not there. Who’s stopping you from saying that Harris shouldn’t have supported genocide?
You have yet to give your thoughts on the video, which activist you agree with, a single response to their arguments, you have yet to type the words ‘Briahna’ or ‘Contrapoints’ yet in this very long thread about Briahna and Contrapoints. You are being evasive.
Harris was wrong to support genocide, and since you cannot admit that for some reason, you blame critics like Briahna for her loss.