ugh even worse if you have a hybrid laptop. integrated amd and discrete nvidia.
Kids, learn from me, do NOT buy an ASUS ROG Strix. less than 5 years old and thing is already on its deathbed with constant reboots and hanging at POST.
Hey, if you already bought it, keep using it as long as it serves you. I’m still using the asus laptop that taught me this lesson, even after its touchscreen failed completely (about a month after the end of warranty) and it has a whole bunch of issues to watch out for, like sometimes staying partially on after shutdown and overheating in my bag. But it can still compute and run Linux Mint fine, so I’m not throwing it away. Just covered the asus logo with a sticker to save some face.
But now that you know, don’t buy anything new by asus. I hope for you that your Ally stays good for as long as you use it, but my experience and others’ suggests that in a year or two it’ll start to show its many flaws. The touchscreen is pretty important for a device like that, isn’t it? Good luck.
I have a feeling that Asus can have like QC issues, unlike Dell. I have heard of bad and good stories about Asus. One good thing is they offer H/W at significantly cheaper rates which makes it very lucrative for the lower segment of the market. Also, Linux support on my Ally and my Asus laptop has been great.
PS: I am not a Asus fanboy. In fact I might buy a Macbook next time.
So far i’ve always had good luck with their motherboards, granted those are the only things from asus that i’ve bought, and my current motherboard is from 2019 i think.
As a single data point to the contrary, I’ve been an ASUS guy for 15 years and always recommend to friends and family. I have an ROG Ally, all my Mboards are ASUS, same with my networking gear. I have an ASUS monitor from 2010 that my Dad still uses.
They provide more settings to tweak out of the box than most of the other tech companies in the same price range.
I don’t think that is a function of the nvidia GPU save that ANY discrete GPU will cause increased wear on battery and heat. Also something that starts out with 6 hours battery and now has 2 is a lot less useful than something which had 10 and now has 6.
Yes I have the same on my laptop from work. It’s a Lenovo with integrated AMD, but also dedicated Nvidia for certain engineering applications that don’t play nice with integrated AMD.
Work doesn’t allow me to install Linux on the thing and some of the applications we use for work don’t run under Linux anyways. But I investigated if it would be possible, so I could decide to go pester IT asking if I could. I researched and found the same answer everywhere, it’s a pain in the ass and nothing but trouble. The main workaround is to completely disable the Nvidia chip, which obviously means not having access to that performance if required.
Would be really nice if this somewhat common use case could just work out of the box.
it is an absolute pain and honestly I wouldn’t waste your time. Wayland stuff you’ll be fine. X11? nope. And yes honestly completely disabling the discrete Nvidia GPU is the best option but depending on the distro that can also be a pain OR if your laptops BIOS ain’t shit (Asus ROG Bios IS shit) you can disable it there. or like on Arch you just pretend the thing doesn’t exist and don’t even bother installing anything for it.
Yeah hybrid laptops are a pain in the ass. don’t do it. just don’t.
Most ASUS-es use MUX chip nowadays. “Ultimate” in Armory Crate, “AsusMuxDgpu” in supergfxctl, and I think “high-performance” in system76-power, is dGPU-primary mode where it drives the panel directly, and iGPU just sits there doing nothing and could even be completely disabled, if so desired.
ugh even worse if you have a hybrid laptop. integrated amd and discrete nvidia.
Kids, learn from me, do NOT buy an ASUS ROG Strix. less than 5 years old and thing is already on its deathbed with constant reboots and hanging at POST.
I’ll do you one better: do not buy ANYTHING made by Asus. That stuff’s built to fail as fast as possible.
Me with my Asus ROG Ally running Bazzite: 💀
Same! it runs fine
Hey, if you already bought it, keep using it as long as it serves you. I’m still using the asus laptop that taught me this lesson, even after its touchscreen failed completely (about a month after the end of warranty) and it has a whole bunch of issues to watch out for, like sometimes staying partially on after shutdown and overheating in my bag. But it can still compute and run Linux Mint fine, so I’m not throwing it away. Just covered the asus logo with a sticker to save some face.
But now that you know, don’t buy anything new by asus. I hope for you that your Ally stays good for as long as you use it, but my experience and others’ suggests that in a year or two it’ll start to show its many flaws. The touchscreen is pretty important for a device like that, isn’t it? Good luck.
Thanks!
I have a feeling that Asus can have like QC issues, unlike Dell. I have heard of bad and good stories about Asus. One good thing is they offer H/W at significantly cheaper rates which makes it very lucrative for the lower segment of the market. Also, Linux support on my Ally and my Asus laptop has been great.
PS: I am not a Asus fanboy. In fact I might buy a Macbook next time.
Yup, they have amazing specs for relatively low prices. The catch, as we agree, is in the QC.
So far i’ve always had good luck with their motherboards, granted those are the only things from asus that i’ve bought, and my current motherboard is from 2019 i think.
As a single data point to the contrary, I’ve been an ASUS guy for 15 years and always recommend to friends and family. I have an ROG Ally, all my Mboards are ASUS, same with my networking gear. I have an ASUS monitor from 2010 that my Dad still uses.
They provide more settings to tweak out of the box than most of the other tech companies in the same price range.
yeah I learned that first hand. shit company with shit product.
I have one of those, and my solution was to permanently disable the Nvidia card in favor of integrated graphics. Yeah…
I don’t think that is a function of the nvidia GPU save that ANY discrete GPU will cause increased wear on battery and heat. Also something that starts out with 6 hours battery and now has 2 is a lot less useful than something which had 10 and now has 6.
Yes I have the same on my laptop from work. It’s a Lenovo with integrated AMD, but also dedicated Nvidia for certain engineering applications that don’t play nice with integrated AMD.
Work doesn’t allow me to install Linux on the thing and some of the applications we use for work don’t run under Linux anyways. But I investigated if it would be possible, so I could decide to go pester IT asking if I could. I researched and found the same answer everywhere, it’s a pain in the ass and nothing but trouble. The main workaround is to completely disable the Nvidia chip, which obviously means not having access to that performance if required.
Would be really nice if this somewhat common use case could just work out of the box.
it is an absolute pain and honestly I wouldn’t waste your time. Wayland stuff you’ll be fine. X11? nope. And yes honestly completely disabling the discrete Nvidia GPU is the best option but depending on the distro that can also be a pain OR if your laptops BIOS ain’t shit (Asus ROG Bios IS shit) you can disable it there. or like on Arch you just pretend the thing doesn’t exist and don’t even bother installing anything for it.
Yeah hybrid laptops are a pain in the ass. don’t do it. just don’t.
Can you not just fully disabled the integrated? (At the cost of higher power usage.)
Most hybrid laptops (AFAIK) have the integrated graphics hard wired to the drive the display, since its always on
Most ASUS-es use MUX chip nowadays. “Ultimate” in Armory Crate, “AsusMuxDgpu” in supergfxctl, and I think “high-performance” in system76-power, is dGPU-primary mode where it drives the panel directly, and iGPU just sits there doing nothing and could even be completely disabled, if so desired.
ProArt here with AMD CPU and Nvidia GPU. Zero issues on OpenSuse Tumbleweed. Just upgraded yesterday.
Oh, they fixed the recent nvidia driver issues? Should check