Liberals should know all about that, seeing as their voter base easily dwarfs the leftists theyre always griping about not voting (even though we do). Blame white liberals, they’re the perpetual disappointment that gets conveniently ignored every time y’all got a bone to pick over your party’s constant floundering
So does that mean we can blame him for being a milquetoast neoliberal, or does he get to play the race card since the other commenter said we should blame “white liberals”?
Oh I was just being silly and making fun of dropping the race card. Like how people will then say why does it have to be about race when in reality it is always about race and sex for that matter.
I don’t think anyone is saying you can’t have the opinion that the minority leader is a wishy washy flim-flan man who serves corporate overlords. I think this is a valid but probably reductionist viewpoint.
I think bring up his race was a predictable response from someone who is pushing back against someone singling out whites. I think it is fair but obviously a little agonistic.
Honestly the original poster and many other people may or may not be racists and may or may not know it. If they weren’t being racist then they could of just been repeating what they heard or even misspoke.
You never really know unless they confirm. And even then that is not the end of it. Just because someone is racist or holds a racist belief doesn’t mean they always have to.
It’s white people using POC with shitty political takes to shield themselves from scrutiny. I intentionally brought race into it because white liberals specifically don’t show up to the polls, but whinge about everyone else not voting. I’m not blaming white people for everything, I’m pointing out the hypocrisy of the largest liberal voting bloc doing nothing and complaining out “uncooperative leftists” when they can’t even be bothered to fucking do the one thing they think will “fix” america
My brother in christ, I am white. I am pointing out the hypocrisy of white LIBERALS. A white LIBERAL brought up Hakeem Jefferies to shield WHITE liberals from scrutiny. Race was part of my criticism, but the LIBERAL part was just as important. The person bringing up Jefferies was using a non-white POLITICIAN to distract from white VOTERS.
Some napkin math for you:
There are 45.4 million Democrats, 55% of them are white, 36% of voters don’t show up to the polls, making about 10 million white liberals don’t show up to the polls.
9% of the US population self identifies as “very far left”. There are ~173 million registered voters in the US, making for ~15.5 million leftist voters. The white liberal base of the Democratic party is nearly twice the amount of leftists, and ~80% of leftists show up to the polls. Per capita, we are far more active in the voting booth than registered Democrats have ever been. The amount of white liberals that don’t show up to the polls alone nearly matches the entire left wing voting bloc. We show up, white libs don’t.
Absolutely. But he’s an elected official, im speaking specifically of voters. White libs consistently do not show up to the polls (doubly so for white men)
White libs consistently do not show up to the polls
Oh fuck off, as if leftists consistently show up to vote. Who was it again who decided to boycott the election in 2024 and helped trump get elected because they couldn’t hold their nose and vote for the person who wasn’t perfect but also want a fascist?
(doubly so for white men)
Just stop with this cheap, worn-out virtue signal. You’re not scoring any points. No one thinks you’re morally superior just because you use “white men” as a punching bag on the internet.
There’s far more nuance than that to every situation, and what you’re doing is both racist and sexist. So unless you can cite some reputable statistics that show a disproportionate amount of non-voting eligible voters are white men, just stop.
Did the math for you. 80% of self identified US leftists vote. White libs alone nearly double the amount of leftists in america. The amount of registered white libs that don’t show up to vote is close to the total amount of leftists in the country. If white liberals showed up to the polls as consistently as leftist did, kamala would’ve won by a landslide
Liberals should know all about that, seeing as their voter base easily dwarfs the leftists theyre always griping about not voting (even though we do). Blame white liberals, they’re the perpetual disappointment that gets conveniently ignored every time y’all got a bone to pick over your party’s constant floundering
Can we blame Hakeem Jeffries too for being a milquetoast corporatist neoliberal? Or is it just the white liberals that we can blame?
Foul! Everyone knows politics isn’t about race /S
So does that mean we can blame him for being a milquetoast neoliberal, or does he get to play the race card since the other commenter said we should blame “white liberals”?
Oh I was just being silly and making fun of dropping the race card. Like how people will then say why does it have to be about race when in reality it is always about race and sex for that matter.
I don’t think anyone is saying you can’t have the opinion that the minority leader is a wishy washy flim-flan man who serves corporate overlords. I think this is a valid but probably reductionist viewpoint.
I think bring up his race was a predictable response from someone who is pushing back against someone singling out whites. I think it is fair but obviously a little agonistic.
Honestly the original poster and many other people may or may not be racists and may or may not know it. If they weren’t being racist then they could of just been repeating what they heard or even misspoke.
You never really know unless they confirm. And even then that is not the end of it. Just because someone is racist or holds a racist belief doesn’t mean they always have to.
I just get tired of this same old pattern:
Person 1: *talks shit about “white people” as a broad category, blames everything on “white people”
Person 2: asks about counterexample involving non-white person
Person 1: “Why are you bringing race into this? Stop being racist!”
It honestly feels like baiting/entrapment, but I’ll never stop calling it out anyway.
It’s white people using POC with shitty political takes to shield themselves from scrutiny. I intentionally brought race into it because white liberals specifically don’t show up to the polls, but whinge about everyone else not voting. I’m not blaming white people for everything, I’m pointing out the hypocrisy of the largest liberal voting bloc doing nothing and complaining out “uncooperative leftists” when they can’t even be bothered to fucking do the one thing they think will “fix” america
Sooo… you have no sources for that claim? Got it.
Also:
My brother in christ, I am white. I am pointing out the hypocrisy of white LIBERALS. A white LIBERAL brought up Hakeem Jefferies to shield WHITE liberals from scrutiny. Race was part of my criticism, but the LIBERAL part was just as important. The person bringing up Jefferies was using a non-white POLITICIAN to distract from white VOTERS.
Some napkin math for you:
There are 45.4 million Democrats, 55% of them are white, 36% of voters don’t show up to the polls, making about 10 million white liberals don’t show up to the polls.
9% of the US population self identifies as “very far left”. There are ~173 million registered voters in the US, making for ~15.5 million leftist voters. The white liberal base of the Democratic party is nearly twice the amount of leftists, and ~80% of leftists show up to the polls. Per capita, we are far more active in the voting booth than registered Democrats have ever been. The amount of white liberals that don’t show up to the polls alone nearly matches the entire left wing voting bloc. We show up, white libs don’t.
source 1 , source 2 , source 3 , source 4 , source 5
Absolutely. But he’s an elected official, im speaking specifically of voters. White libs consistently do not show up to the polls (doubly so for white men)
Oh fuck off, as if leftists consistently show up to vote. Who was it again who decided to boycott the election in 2024 and helped trump get elected because they couldn’t hold their nose and vote for the person who wasn’t perfect but also want a fascist?
Just stop with this cheap, worn-out virtue signal. You’re not scoring any points. No one thinks you’re morally superior just because you use “white men” as a punching bag on the internet.
There’s far more nuance than that to every situation, and what you’re doing is both racist and sexist. So unless you can cite some reputable statistics that show a disproportionate amount of non-voting eligible voters are white men, just stop.
https://lemmyverse.link/lemmy.zip/comment/26598433
Did the math for you. 80% of self identified US leftists vote. White libs alone nearly double the amount of leftists in america. The amount of registered white libs that don’t show up to vote is close to the total amount of leftists in the country. If white liberals showed up to the polls as consistently as leftist did, kamala would’ve won by a landslide
Your math was terribly flawed and I already broke down why. I’m not going to repeat it here.
Blaming Kamala’s loss on liberals not showing up to vote while claiming leftists did their part is fucking wild.
Were you fucking sleeping through all the “boycott the vote” astroturfing from the left? It hasn’t even stopped!