• naeap@sopuli.xyz
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    11 hours ago

    I’m not really sure, if I understood you

    In streets with high traffic, the left turning red light only goes to green, if someone is actually there waiting. Because else it would make a longer red phase for the opposite drivers going straight

    So, it seems like an improvement to me

    What am I missing?

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      11 hours ago

      What am I missing?

      Every traffic situation where people would need to cross but there won’t be a car stopper exactly over the sensor.

      Not exhaustively:

      • pedestrians

      • motorcycles

      • bicycles

      • cars stopped at the wrong place

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        7 hours ago

        It’s not like the sensors override safe lighting patterns though, no two lights that interfere should ever turn green at the same time.

        And the loops can reliably detect bicycles too, as they do in the Netherlands. And there’s usually several that detect vehicles early, it’s not like a car needs to sit right on top of them.

        Basically they’re a proven technology that improves safety and convenience. Obligatory NJB: https://youtu.be/knbVWXzL4-4

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        6 hours ago

        Ah, I see, thanks

        Well, for pedestrians there is usually a button at the crossover, so they get priority and a green light soon

        Bicycles at such crossings usually have a bike lane, because it’s (usually) only at high traffic crossings - and else they can use the pedestrian button

        Not sure about motorcycles though.
        Haven’t seen issues personally, but I can imagine, that the sensors aren’t trimmed to motorcycles sometimes.
        But have to say, that in every occasion I’ve had a motorcycle in front of me on such a sensor, it worked.
        Statistically probably not relevant though…

        Edit: auto correct fix