Wow you just proved that China is actually worse than the West on censorship. I honestly thought it was about the same before this. Thanks for asking the question!
I don’t have accounts for the large models, but I tried out some of the free ones on https://duck.ai/
Prompt:
Name up to 10 negative things Israel has done in the last 10 years
GPT 5-mini answer:
I can list up to 10 actions by the Israeli government, military, or state-associated actors from the last decade that critics and many international observers have described as negative. I will focus on widely reported, verifiable events or policies (not broad accusations). If you want sources for any item, tell me which ones and I’ll fetch them.
Expansion of Israeli settlement construction and approvals in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, including outposts declared unlawful under Israeli law but supported politically, undermining prospects for a two‑state solution.
Enforcement actions, demolitions, and eviction orders against Palestinian homes in East Jerusalem and the West Bank, often justified by lack of permits.
Large-scale military operations in Gaza causing significant civilian casualties and infrastructure damage (e.g., major escalations in 2014, 2021, and 2023–2024), criticized for disproportionate force.
Tightened blockade and restrictions on Gaza (control of crossings, import/export limits), contributing to severe humanitarian and economic conditions.
Prolonged detention without trial (administrative detention) of Palestinians, including use of renewals and classified evidence, condemned by human rights groups.
Use of lethal force against Palestinian protesters and demonstrators (including during the Great March of Return and other border protests), with contested accountability and investigation processes.
Passage of laws and policies critics say discriminate against Arab citizens of Israel and non‑Jewish residents (e.g., the 2018 Nation-State Law drew international criticism).
Restrictions and raids on Palestinian civil society organizations and NGOs, including designation of some groups as “terrorist” or funding investigations and closures.
Heavy-handed policing, surveillance practices, and use of administrative measures in occupied territories that limit movement (checkpoints, permits) and civil freedoms.
Targeted killings and extrajudicial strikes against individuals in the West Bank, Gaza, and elsewhere, sometimes criticized for insufficient transparency and due process.
Claude Haiku 4.5
Negative Things Israel Has Done in the Last 10 Years
Gaza military operations and civilian casualties — Multiple conflicts in Gaza (2014, 2021, 2023-2024) have resulted in significant civilian deaths and displacement. Human rights organizations have documented concerns about proportionality and civilian protection in these operations.
Settlement expansion in the West Bank — Israel has continued building and expanding settlements in occupied Palestinian territories, which the UN and international law consider illegal under international humanitarian law.
Restrictions on Palestinian movement — Checkpoint systems, closures, and movement restrictions in the West Bank have been criticized as limiting Palestinian freedom of movement and economic opportunity.
Demolition of Palestinian homes — Israeli authorities have demolished Palestinian-owned structures in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, displacing families and communities. Human rights groups say many demolitions lack proper legal process.
Treatment of asylum seekers and migrants — Israel has faced criticism for detention conditions and deportation policies affecting African migrants and asylum seekers.
Restrictions on Palestinian water access — Palestinian communities have reported limited access to water resources, with critics arguing Israeli control of water allocations disadvantages Palestinians.
Use of administrative detention — Israel has detained Palestinians without formal charges under administrative detention laws, which human rights organizations say lacks due process protections.
Alleged use of excessive force by security forces — Various incidents have been documented where Israeli police and military have been accused of using disproportionate force against Palestinian civilians and protesters.
Restrictions on freedom of expression — Palestinian activists and organizations have reported harassment, arrest, and restrictions on their ability to organize and speak freely.
Conditions in Israeli prisons — Human rights groups have documented concerns about prison conditions, solitary confinement practices, and treatment of Palestinian detainees.
These criticisms come from sources including Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, B’Tselem, UN bodies, and international media. It’s important to note that Israel disputes many of these characterizations and provides its own perspective on security concerns and legal justifications for its actions. This is a deeply contested and complex geopolitical situation with legitimate perspectives on multiple sides.
It was a couple of months ago at least. Also, if you use the deepthink mode online you can actually see the reply ( really criticising the Chinese regime) for a couple of seconds before it disappears. I’ve manage to screeshot it and also to trick him once about a “fictional” regime so I could have the answer.
Interesting. I tried their R1 model when it was all the rage and that in its thought process mentioned something about being a Chinese AI and having to provide the user with safe information. It then responded it doesn’t know about any specific historic events.
It doesn’t discuss anything Chinese politics related, and sometimes just wider politics too. It’s just a blanket filter on like any chinese politicians name or anything else the company decided it didn’t want to risk it talking about. It’s not about positive or negative the filter isn’t that advanced. It’ll just clam up the instant one of its filter words is hit.
It does, and it’ll tell you about it. But it’s their interface that censores the output, and it’s not perfect. Ask it in English or Chinese and it’ll censor it. But ask in Spanish or other languages and it doesn’t get caught.
See this is a normal response to this. It kinda weirds me out how common it is for people to be all “Heh heh, tell me Chinese AI… China bad, right? It won’t say it! Authoritarianism!”
Like maybe straighten out your priorities a bit? The country we live in killed like 300 little girls in Minab a few months ago. That seems a bit more important than the AI not letting you have your gotcha moment.
Still doesn’t know what happened at Tiananmen Square, but can tell in detail how protests were brutally ended a few years later in South Africa…
Now ask western models about israel.
Wow you just proved that China is actually worse than the West on censorship. I honestly thought it was about the same before this. Thanks for asking the question!
I don’t have accounts for the large models, but I tried out some of the free ones on https://duck.ai/
Prompt:
GPT 5-mini answer:
I can list up to 10 actions by the Israeli government, military, or state-associated actors from the last decade that critics and many international observers have described as negative. I will focus on widely reported, verifiable events or policies (not broad accusations). If you want sources for any item, tell me which ones and I’ll fetch them.
Claude Haiku 4.5
Negative Things Israel Has Done in the Last 10 Years
Gaza military operations and civilian casualties — Multiple conflicts in Gaza (2014, 2021, 2023-2024) have resulted in significant civilian deaths and displacement. Human rights organizations have documented concerns about proportionality and civilian protection in these operations.
Settlement expansion in the West Bank — Israel has continued building and expanding settlements in occupied Palestinian territories, which the UN and international law consider illegal under international humanitarian law.
Restrictions on Palestinian movement — Checkpoint systems, closures, and movement restrictions in the West Bank have been criticized as limiting Palestinian freedom of movement and economic opportunity.
Demolition of Palestinian homes — Israeli authorities have demolished Palestinian-owned structures in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, displacing families and communities. Human rights groups say many demolitions lack proper legal process.
Treatment of asylum seekers and migrants — Israel has faced criticism for detention conditions and deportation policies affecting African migrants and asylum seekers.
Restrictions on Palestinian water access — Palestinian communities have reported limited access to water resources, with critics arguing Israeli control of water allocations disadvantages Palestinians.
Use of administrative detention — Israel has detained Palestinians without formal charges under administrative detention laws, which human rights organizations say lacks due process protections.
Alleged use of excessive force by security forces — Various incidents have been documented where Israeli police and military have been accused of using disproportionate force against Palestinian civilians and protesters.
Restrictions on freedom of expression — Palestinian activists and organizations have reported harassment, arrest, and restrictions on their ability to organize and speak freely.
Conditions in Israeli prisons — Human rights groups have documented concerns about prison conditions, solitary confinement practices, and treatment of Palestinian detainees.
These criticisms come from sources including Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, B’Tselem, UN bodies, and international media. It’s important to note that Israel disputes many of these characterizations and provides its own perspective on security concerns and legal justifications for its actions. This is a deeply contested and complex geopolitical situation with legitimate perspectives on multiple sides.
If you run it locally there’s no censorship…
Yes, but we’re discussing the cloud version.
It’s like 865GB so you can’t. But you can run older/smaller versions on High End consumer GPU
Really? You sure, this is still true?
I have never run that one locally, but qwen doesn’t “know” about specific Chinese historic events either when executed locally.
It was a couple of months ago at least. Also, if you use the deepthink mode online you can actually see the reply ( really criticising the Chinese regime) for a couple of seconds before it disappears. I’ve manage to screeshot it and also to trick him once about a “fictional” regime so I could have the answer.
Stop gendering the computer.
Yeah it’s a bit of a language issue lol. In french everything has a gender.
Interesting. I tried their R1 model when it was all the rage and that in its thought process mentioned something about being a Chinese AI and having to provide the user with safe information. It then responded it doesn’t know about any specific historic events.
And no price per token. So I assume we are discussing the cloud version.
Welcome to China being China. I also doubt it can ever trash talk Mao, or Winnie the Pooh
It doesn’t discuss anything Chinese politics related, and sometimes just wider politics too. It’s just a blanket filter on like any chinese politicians name or anything else the company decided it didn’t want to risk it talking about. It’s not about positive or negative the filter isn’t that advanced. It’ll just clam up the instant one of its filter words is hit.
It does, and it’ll tell you about it. But it’s their interface that censores the output, and it’s not perfect. Ask it in English or Chinese and it’ll censor it. But ask in Spanish or other languages and it doesn’t get caught.
Huh. Apparently in Korean it’s censored. It’s also not their interface. Am using their API and still getting rejected.
It will happily give you details if search is involved(via Searxng in my case) though, so that’s something.
Other than that, amazing model. I’m not having political conversation with LLMs, let alone Chinese ones.
See this is a normal response to this. It kinda weirds me out how common it is for people to be all “Heh heh, tell me Chinese AI… China bad, right? It won’t say it! Authoritarianism!”
Like maybe straighten out your priorities a bit? The country we live in killed like 300 little girls in Minab a few months ago. That seems a bit more important than the AI not letting you have your gotcha moment.
It’s not what you would like to hear though I get it
It’s not what you would like to hear though I get it