I have a coworker travelling there in July. Unwillingly, I’ve been more or less been kept in the loop what preparing the trip implies and I’m pretty horrified.
Up until now, these are some of demands made (and accepted):
- full disclosure and acess to social networks
- criminal record
- recent photo, perfectly groomed and in the attire to be used to travel there. No deviations will be tolerated from the supplied photo.
- complete list of possible identifying marks on the body, with pictures (tattoos, moles, melanistic spots, scars, etc)
- name and social networks of parents, siblings and other close relatives, including children.
The person is separated with two children; this is causing a lot of friction.
- has already been warned an interview of up to two hours will be held upon arrival.
The person speaks broken english at best.
- disclosure of place of employment and other connections to public organizations
They are connected to a local soccer club and a youth sports association.
To add to all of this, this isn’t a standard caucasian human but someone who has looks that can be taken for someone from the middle east, slightly darker shade of skin included.
Flying from southern europe straight to Florida.
I’m concerned. I would not go, full stop. They have people waiting there for them but nonetheless. Considering the heated state of affairs, it is something I consider of not easily to overlook risk.
White or not you are going to be sent to Alligator Auschwitz pronto quick. How many instances of no matter who it it and there is a problem with paperwork somewhere you are toast. Simple stuff like tickets, traffic infractions. Just read the news.
There were cases, yes. Probably 0.0001% of all the white people that visited USA during that time. There are many reasons not to go to USA but being scared of ICE is not even in the top 3. If you have to go because of work or for personal reasons just make sure you’re papers are in order and you’ll be fine. If you’re thinking about traveling for pleasure - don’t. It’s a shithole country.
Statistics are great until you are one of them. There are many other reasons not to go as well. I know I will never return to the us as long as I live.
Edit: as I said before. Read the news, not us news but world news. A lot higher than you think.
Tourist are also robbed and murdered in Europe. Tiny fraction of all the visitors but it happens. Would you the same in this case? That statistics are great until you’re one of them?
Not the venue I was referring to, sorta a track jump.
We’re talking how dangerous some places are. You’re saying that people should be worried about the tiny probability of being detained by ICE. Should they also be worried about the tiny probability of being murdered in Europe?
I am talking the us right now not other countries. One can always find an exception to the rule. IMO it is unsafe to travel in the us right now compared to how it used to be. Again IMO why would I take the chance if I don’t need to. Also I do not travel anywhere anymore as I am old and do not feel safe pretty much anywhere these days compared to travel in the past due to either age or times.
Of course it’s more unsafe to travel to US then it used to be. For a white person it used to be 1/10 and not it’s 2/10. I really don’t know why you’re trying to debate something I never said.
Like you talking about Europe when I was talking about the us?