• Jul (they/she)@piefed.blahaj.zone
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      14 hours ago

      Most people don’t mind being productive. There’s a big difference between that and being forced to give all of your productivity to someone else, have little choice in what you produce or what’s done with it, and not be compensated equivalently. If a person in an ancient agrarian society produced enough wheat to feed the town with a few months of labor per year, they were compensated with everything else they needed to survive and had the rest of the time to raise their family and enjoy life.

      Modern people do intense mental or physical labor to the point of having barely enough time and energy to keep up with tasks necessary for the survival of themselves and their family, and are not even rewarded with enough to own a home of their own much less enough food and time off to recover from the intense labor.

      Huge difference.

    • MalReynolds@slrpnk.net
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      10 hours ago

      Fuck that shit, I want my automated luxury gay space economy Mr. Keynes, or if needed 15 hrs a week.

    • Triumph@fedia.io
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      15 hours ago

      I was musing to myself earlier that people do naturally want to create and provide; monetization of those made them into work.

    • I think you are confusing labor with work. Most don’t mind labor as it makes one feel accomplished and usually means you advanced something for those that depend on you. Work is what you do when you are persuaded to exchange said labor for a monetary value.

    • jtrek@startrek.website
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      I wouldn’t mind work if management weren’t a bunch of fart-huffing dullards.

      It would be mildly satisfying to build good software. It’s not satisfying to have non-technical people blocking technical decisions, 90 minute planning meetings that could have been an email, and insufficient staff because “use AI”