• bigmamoth@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    At some point saying that we ard only sure at 99.99% and not 100% so we fan t do anything about it is utterly ridiculous. No system is perfect and yet u use that argument at the age of cctv dna test and so on

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      7 hours ago

      You can do plenty of things but in a civilized country we tend not to punish people in brutal ways just to get some satisfaction. We isolate them, make sure they can’t hurt anyone and try to rehabilitate them.

      And we do this, among other things, because systems are not perfect and doing irreversible harm to people is problematic. Even with CCTV and DNA tests.

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        6 hours ago

        For context, I’m thinking more of a recent murder case that happened in the UK. Basically a sikh guy stabbed a British student, then called the police on him accusing him of racism. Police arrived and handcuffed the dying student as he bled out, dying on the ground in handcuffs. The Sikh’s family were complicit

        Obviously, a whole myriad of immigration tension has arisen again (happened with the southport stabbings also) and people are rioting.

        I think if we publicly executed people who carried out these atrocities, it would quench the general public’s bloodthirst and restore order, hopefully reducing hate crimes on the innocent immigrants.

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              6 hours ago

              Public execution. They hanged a guy from a tree and took a nice group photo. They would then make nice postcards out of them and sent out to family. Really brings back the community together. Especially if the criminal is of a different race. The history showed us that there are no risk of discrimination or abuse here. Justice system should do what the mod desires. We could call it… mob justice.

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                  4 hours ago

                  I’m not American but you said that executing a sikh guy for killing a British student (who was actually Polish) to stop riots would be a good idea. You specifically mentioned races of the involved and talked about immigration tensions. But yes, I started talking about race out of nowhere…

                  Does this really not sound familiar to you?

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Till

                  • HM King Charles III DG FD@feddit.uk
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                    3 hours ago

                    I’m not American

                    Too much exposure to American media is making you act like one and constantly harp on about the USA

                    was abducted and lynched in Mississippi in 1955 after being accused of offending a white woman,

                    That’s quite a step away from saying “we should execute murderers” to suddenly jumping to Emmett Till

                    A whole witch-hunt also happened when James Bulger was murdered. It’s not always race related. Offending white people is not always a crime, and never a capital offence.

      • bigmamoth@lemmy.world
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        7 hours ago

        Doing irrevserible harm to ppl is problematic ☝️🤓

        Pls, no country on earth has the ressource to rehabilitate every criminal nor they should try. U cant just look me in the eyes and say to me yeah he was a neo nazi that killed 20 ppl in a place of cult but have you thinking about his rehabilitation and how horrible you will be if you think it will be a net positive for society if we kill him ?

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          6 hours ago

          Mother of god you really are a fucking moron… Every day I grow more ABs more weary existing here.

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            6 hours ago

            They may type like a moron, but they have a point. It’s easy for someone to sit behind a screen and type “just rehabilitate them” online.

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            6 hours ago

            And me thinking nobody will ever defend nazi here, here u are doing it with litteral nazi terrorist.