• Sentient Loom@sh.itjust.works
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    22 hours ago

    The premise is - you fucking can’t. It acts ex-act-ly like the real thing, and for all the same reasons

    You literally made the simulation, so yes you can tell the difference. And the math is inevitably different, because the math of the simulation includes the math which defines the different substrate. So it is physically different, a different thing. Assume whatever you want, but in the end it is a physically different thing, and it takes different math to fully describe it. We only know for sure that conscious experience happens with this substrate.

    Fuck off

    k

    Dog-torturing prejudice.

    k

    fuck off again

    good bye

    • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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      17 hours ago

      the math of the simulation includes the math which defines the different substrate

      2+2 on an emulated calculator gets a different answer than 2+2 on a real one, because there’s different math. Math being physics in this case but not when it undercuts your whole point. Conscious experience must only be possible in this substrate, despite zero evidence to the contrary… and faking the entire substrate with physics math doesn’t count because numbers work differently in rocks than in meat.

      k.

      If telling you to shut up is redundant then good riddance.