• jarvis@lemmy.world
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    3 hours ago

    This is a false premise. Instead of choosing which evil we want to accept, we can choose which evil we prefer to resist.

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      2 hours ago

      True, and I agree, but we do actually have to resist for that to be the case. Not just with the signs and angry letters we’ve been using to try to convince the corrupt to simply not be corrupt anymore, but with actions that actually prevent them from making things worse, up to and including their death, if necessary. Until then we really are just voting for the lesser evil and letting them do whatever they want.

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      9 minutes ago

      I fucking hate that we keep getting this “both sides bad” ideology, now “both sides deathcamp” ffs, right during Trump’s reign where we are seeing concentration camps and illegal wars right after a boring Biden presidency.

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    4 hours ago

    this is a bullshit argument

    one side in US politics is pretty ANTI death camp while the other is very much PRO death camp. lesser evil voting in this case is ANTI death camp

    you putz

    • YoureHotCupCake@lemmy.world
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      1 hour ago

      Except if you consider that one side committed a genocide and then the other side committed even more genocide.

    • GodlessCommie@lemmy.worldOPM
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      4 hours ago

      Except here, in the real world world, one side built the death camps while the other side is filling them up.

  • cattywampus@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    We mostly get three votes. We get to vote on how we spend our money, who we give it too. We can cast a ballot. We can vote through physical action.

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    5 hours ago

    This is true. The problem is, in a lot of US elections, you only have bad choices. You have really bad, and a little less bad than really bad. What I wouldn’t give for ranked choice voting.

    • GodlessCommie@lemmy.worldOPM
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      4 hours ago

      lesser evil won in 2020 & we got:

      • genocide
      • record police killings of Black Americans
      • record COVID deaths
      • record trans murders
      • 1st declared LGBTQIA+ emergency
      • homelessness criminalized
      • record inflation

      Democrats didn’t try to repeal the Patriot Act. They kept reauthorizing it. They didnt try to address Citizens United, they ignored it. They didn’t try to close Guantanamo Bay. They didn’t try to roll back ICE funding. And all the stuff that Trump is currently doing, they will do absolutely nothing to roll any of it back. Liberal lesser evil enables the greater evil. When liberals say lesser evil, what they mean is the same evil but affects them less.

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        3 hours ago

        I will poke only one hole in your little list there.

        lesser evil won in 2020

        record COVID deaths

        pretty sure any number of deaths would’ve been record numbers…

  • Jul (they/she)@piefed.blahaj.zone
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    4 hours ago

    Unfortunately unhelpful when the greater evil is so extremely evil, so the only choice is to either vote against the greater evil or not vote at all (or at least not have any likelihood at all that your vote will make any difference).

    Especially with the electoral college for president there really is no other choice in the US. There is no chance of a third party since if one of the three doesn’t get a majority, then the winner is determined by those already in power. And most other federal elections there’s very little chance of a third parry with no huge pool of money from one of the two parties actually winning. It happens, but very rarely and most who win these days were already in their positions before the removal of caps on corporate cash and the idea that corporations have human rights was ingrained by our corrupted Supreme Court.