• ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 day ago

    the system isn’t without redemption

    But how many need to die to redeem such a basically shitty anti-democratic system in the first place? Is it worth it?

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      Call me a pessimist, but at this point we’re not getting out of this without a fair amount of death anyway one way or the other.

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        1 day ago

        So we must spend those deaths redeeming the system. Yes. A better world is a nice thought, but not really possible. We must have anew red terror to elect kamala harris.

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          To make a steelman argument: frequently proposed reforms include eliminating the spoiler effect, which would force politicians to compete for best instead of second worst.

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              14 hours ago

              I’m hardly one to fall into the ‘both sides’ argument because, let’s face it, one side is clearly far worse than the other. And hell, as your northern neighbour, I’m frankly more interested in the the fact that I see the same kind of crap happening up here, but…

              When one of the supposed good ones on the so-called better side get’s caught on mic saying that they’re “used to hearing their people say fuck no, and doing it anyway”, it’s clear that modern politicians in general (In both the US, Canada, UK, etc… I dare say everywhere, have gotten cocky and forgotten who they work for.

              And we’re past the point where a little bit of the ol’ ultra-violence is becoming necessary.