• NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip
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    11 hours ago

    Privacy first? So what is WhatsApp doing on there?

    I get why, that is for a lot of people the ONLY way they use a phone instead of calling, but this definitely not privacy first or social media free then.

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      I mean, it’s not like it comes preloaded or anything. It’s Linux, you can choose install (or not install) whatever you want.

      Edit: Good Lord, it actually does come preloaded. Unreal.

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        Edit: Good Lord, it actually does come preloaded.

        At least Facebook will subsidize a large portion of the price, right?

        > $500

        Well then.

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        It’s Linux, you can choose install (or not install) whatever you want.

        yes, well except that is what they are trying to patent (as far as I can tell) using key based tools to not allow certain apps and DNS filtering as well. If its based on linux, thats one thing, but doesnt stop them from locking things down.

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        Supposedly you can’t install some things. Hopefully this is an optional parental control feature, and not baked in to every phone. They would be losing a lot of potential nostalgia sales if they only chase after the “forced distraction free” market. Some people can control their usage without needing the device to do it for them. 🤷

        The phone also blocks internet browsers and social media apps at a system level, “using patent-pending technology, eliminating temptation and designed with distraction-free schools in mind.” This ties in neatly with the upcoming ban on social media for the under-16s in the UK, but I can’t imagine there are many teenagers who even know what Commodore is.

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      One has nothing to do with the other. A properly configured Android is not going to leak any information to its apps. The problem comes with the customized Android a phone maker uses, where they do everything to gather data (or let others gather data if they pay for it).

      So while the app itself is anything but privacy friendly, the phone is. So is GrapheneOS with WhatsApp.

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        7 hours ago

        WhatsApp has access to your plain text before it encrypts it. One has to trust WhatsApp with that. That’s the problem. Meta is untrustworthy.

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          I did not try to imply that WhatsApp is secure or trustworthy. They will, of course, use as much data as they can. But that’s something out of control of the mobile phone. And if they wouldn’t pre-install WhatsApp, users will download it ASAP.