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Musicians and production team understood to be facing same punishment after livestream of patriotic song
In December 2024, the 29-year-old singer performed the patriotic song Az Khoone Javanane Vatan (From the Blood of the Youth of the Homeland) without a hijab in a livestreamed performance that went viral.
I don’t have a problem with Islam, I know plenty of people I’d consider decent/good that are Muslim. That being said as an atheist who thinks all religions are insane, I think Islam isn’t far from Christianity of 1000 years ago. Christianity used to be just as bloody and cruel, but it moved on to what we have as modern Christianity. Which isn’t great, but nowhere near what it was. Islam as a whole hasn’t moved on completely, which would be something akin to when the Catholic Church was in power in Europe.
Not spreading hate, Islam isn’t evil or make you evil, I just think it needs to evolve with at least a tad common sense like Christianity.
I think the difference is less that Islam is behind the curve and more that Islam is disproportionately practiced in theocratic nations. Religious echochambers that are largely monocultural get really fucked up really fast. Mormonism and all the fucked up shit in Utah. Hasidic Jewish communities, and israel. All the theocratic Muslim nations. Theres a reason the bible belt’s version of Christianity is more fucked-up than the version you more often find in the rest of the country. If I remember right its the Buddhist majority group carrying out a genocide in Myanmar – and I feel like in the west we tend to think of Buddhists as pretty peaceful.
An echo chamber normalizes things that otherwise wouldn’t be accepted as normal, and allows them to exacerbate themselves, and religions tend to have some fucked shit burried in them that shows up when it doesnt have to be rationalized to outsiders. You tend to see that fucked shit a lot less when the people practicing those religions are also in community with folks who aren’t part of their religion.
Which to be clear, is true of many things not just religion. You can also see it in pockets of political echochambers online, even on the fediverse, but online theres always the risk of context collapse, in a way that gets less and less true as a region becomes more monocultural, as tends to happen under theocracy.
It’s unfair to imply that Islam has been stagnant for a millennia, when in reality numerous scholars from across the globe have contributed so much to Islamic jurisprudence and still do. “Islam” is a very wide notion and cannot be reduced to a historically and spacially specific vision thereof. You cannot find the same Sharia law in two Muslim countries. Some countries even accomodate different Islamic rites by providing them with parallel legal systems.
Stop being a weak bitch, just go with the second sentiment full throttle. It’s the correct one.
Iran is the first time in millennia this kind of Islam has been a state