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Welcome to this week’s casual kōrero thread!

This post will be pinned in this community so you can always find it, and will stay for about a week until replaced by the next one.

It’s for talking about anything that might not justify a full post. For example:

  • Something interesting that happened to you
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  • Something frustrating that happened to you
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So how’s it going?

  • BalpeenHammer@lemmy.nz
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    6 days ago

    I have been on hold for more than an hour because the Internet is out. It’s always like this no matter who I call. I had an issue with Sky recently and the same thing. Does anybody in this country offer decent customer service?

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      6 days ago

      Do they have an outage page you can check on your phone? I’ve worked at a couple of ISPs, often they’re already well aware of the issues and are working to fix them.

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        6 days ago

        They have a link, it goes to chorus, chorus doesn’t have an outage listed in my area. After more than an hour on hold I talk to somebody who says there is an outage in my area affecting hundreds of people.

        Go figure.

    • Dave@lemmy.nzOPM
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      6 days ago

      Realistically? Not really. If you make it too easy to call people stop using the online channels that are cheaper to provide.

      However, I’d say someone like Spark may be a good option. I believe they have callbacks so you call and push whatever number and then they call you back when you get to the front of the queue. They are also better resourced to handle the calls, and I’m assuming share their call centre with the subsidiaries (skinny, bigpipe, I think there are others). Spark itself can be a bit expensive but the subsideries are cheaper and might do ok on service. I don’t think any major player will have “great” service, though, and many little ones don’t have a phone number at all.

      Keep in mind that unless it’s just you with the issue, any outage covering an area is going to cause a big spike to the call centre and queue times will increase.

      • BalpeenHammer@lemmy.nz
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        6 days ago

        The problem is that if your internet is out you aren’t going to use their web site. Also their web sites are useless by and large. Even the chat feature has super long wait times. I once tried to use the chat with sky and I would wait fifteen minutes for somebody to start a chat and it would instantly crash and stop responding.

        • Dave@lemmy.nzOPM
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          6 days ago

          I think the assumption if you’d use you phone on mobile data to access the website if your internet is down. But yes, like you I’ve only had bad experiences.

          Luckily our internet seems pretty stable these days. Occasional overnight brief loss of internet but I would never know if my fancy router didn’t tell me.

            • Dave@lemmy.nzOPM
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              6 days ago

              Like most call centres, they have busy times and quiet times. The problem is, busy times are defined by the fact that most people are calling then. If 70% of people all try to call at the same time (lunch time, when the internet has gone out, etc) then 70% of people will get long wait times.

              But from what I see there is no incentive to reduce wait times even it off peak periods. If you can call and have the phone answered right away then there are many people who will do this to find out their balance or what time they are open or other easily found information. As soon as your wait time is 20 minutes then you’ll see a huge drop-off in these calls and so you suddenly don’t need all those staff to answer those basic calls.

              If you’re always seeing wait times of 20m or more, you’re most likely only calling at peak times. Calling outside those times will help.

              Nothing will help long wait times when there is an unplanned widespread outage, except perhaps a mass text campaign to message everyone affected to tell them you know and are working on it - except you might not know who is affected until you’ve had time to investigate.

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                I just don’t understand the mentality of a business saying “we don’t want to talk to our customers”.

                Nothing will help long wait times when there is an unplanned widespread outage, except perhaps a mass text campaign to message everyone affected to tell them you know and are working on it -

                Seems like this could be done easily, even easier with email.

                • Dave@lemmy.nzOPM
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                  I just don’t understand the mentality of a business saying “we don’t want to talk to our customers”.

                  Money. They worked out the customers lost from this add up to less than the cost of having a short wait time.

                  Seems like this could be done easily, even easier with email.

                  Realistically it’s actually pretty difficult to identify exactly which individual houses are affected and them map that against customer accounts and then send an email to them all within a short time. I don’t see any reason why it should be that way, though. If they had their system set up so customers were previously mapped against certain local cables, cabinets, etc then they could identify the problem spot and trigger an email to all the potentially affected people. But again, such efforts would cost money. And I’d argue that money is better spent on reducing the number of outages.

  • eagleeyedtiger@lemmy.nz
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    8 days ago

    I mentioned a few months ago about getting a new mattress, well we finally did it last week. Ended up getting the extra firm Ecosa mattress on sale and it’s SO firm and great. Almost feels like sleeping on the floor. It’s definitely helping my lower back pains and feels a lot better when I wake up in the morning.

    The hunt is still on for a larger car/seven seater.