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Too cold is always better than to hot. Period.
Get a hot tea. Put on a sweater. Put on a fucking blanket, I don’t care. You can fix being cold. You’re just whining.
I can’t strip down to my underwear and dunk myself into a cool water bath at work. It’s frowned upon.
Me in my 93°F warehouse in the summer, which is also my 22°warehouse in the winter, for 12 hours a day
I like looking across the warehouse floor everyone is just wearing a long sleeve shirt and steaming.
I forgot how much I hated working in an office. Our desks were directly under the vent, so we’d get blasted with cold air. Sales was off in a corner, where it was too warm for them. No amount of adjusting the thermostat would change their local temperature, but they’d try anyway.
In addition to being climate criminals who should all be stripped of their nice things, people who mandate in-office are often causing personal, physical, suffering.
You needed ceiling fans to help distribute and even out the temperature.
One would consider to switch desk?
Or just a piece of cardboard, like had been used for decades.
A fan would actually solve the problem. But that requires some official decision trying to improve people’s life.
How would a fan solve the issue?
By avoiding one place being too cold while another is too hot.
You do realize the HVAC systems have fans in them right? The problem is these people were complaining that part of the fan blew on them because they were underneath the vent. A fan is not going to solve an issue like that because the fans radiate out and the fins radiate out including down. So in a normal office situation like this you just stick a piece of cardboard up over your desk and it directs the airflow away from your desk very easily. A fan ain’t going to do shit.
Yeah, noticed the problem with relying on the HVAC’s internal fans to do local air circulation?
you just stick a piece of cardboard up over your desk and it directs the airflow away from your desk very easily
Into some other place with people too. And certainly not into the hot island, because if the air could easily reach there it wouldn’t be a hot island.
The people having to work outside hearing both sides complain:
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Inside with no A/C is far worse than outside.
Disagree, as long as the temps are the same. Sun exposure/UV will sap all the energy out of you and outside work is usually going to be more physically strenuous than whatever you’re doing inside
I don’t experience that personally. I find the constant AC blowing on me fucks me up. Being out in the hot sun feels great. Maybe I’m a reptile…
Yeah but the temps never are the same are they? The sun heats the building and unless you’ve got a fan the entire shift, you have no airflow. Agreed on the UV part tho.
Edit: Lol about the more physical/strenuous part tho.
If the blinds are closed and there’s half decent insulation, and maybe a fan for some airflow, inside can be much nicer.
Offices generally don’t have this though, unfortunately
Warehouses and newer factories are often sheet metal buildings with no insulation and maybe a vent fan by the peak. You often get industrial blowers on the floor but it’s still pushing triple digit air at you.
Offices also usually have computers and other things adding a bit insignificant amount to that heat.
Still depends. The air usually is better outside as it can get pretty stuffy inside quickly.
-someone who doesn’t work outside
I work in a foundry… And I’ve worked outside. Inside without A/C is far worse.
You’ve got to understand that a foundry is probably the most extreme form of “worked inside,” right? I don’t think its the lack of aircon making you toasty lol
Right but I have also worked at other factories as well that didn’t have AC as well. Before this job, I’d never stayed anywhere more than 2 1/2 years. My ADHD gets bored and tired of people too easily lol so I’ve had a lot of random experience. I’ve even worked an air conditioned desk job for a while, absolutely hated it.
Hmm, foundry. Alright, I’ll take your word for it. Thats gotta suck.
It does, but the pay and benefits are too good.
Depends on the building. Steel reinforced concrete is brutal in summer, even with some airflow. Brick buildings that were well designed are a lot better.
Honestly it’d be nice if we could get some solar panels up and shade the roof at the very least.
It also depends on individual people. I’m freezing below 76F 24C, my best friend starts sweating if it gets above 68F 20C. His house is set at 66F 19C, and if I go over, I know I have to bring a jacket, and if he comes over to my house he brings a sweat rag.
It also depends on what you’re doing. Id I’m going outside and do something (even just going for a walk) I’m gonna start wearing shorts and t-shirt at around 17°C. If I stay inside playing video games and barely move at all i might wrap myself in a comfy blanket or hoodie even a bit above 20°C (especially with open windows and a nice breeze).
You should buy them some fun headbands as a gift! I’m in the colder sample set and I wear headbands all the time. So does my son. They’re super functional.
I have nothing to contribute, but I wanted to complain about my coworkers. They under dress for how chilly the office is kept (76F, which really isn’t chilly) then they blast personal space heaters in their offices while the AC is on. I think it would be fine keeping it on 78 if we had ceiling fans, but for whatever reason I never see those in offices
then they blast personal space heaters in their offices while the AC is on.
Okay, that’s more than just mildly irritating. That’s massively irritating.
What if they’re dressed in a manner of which so they don’t have to change when they go back outside?
That still doesn’t excuse that level of wastefulness whatsoever. Oh no, a mild inconvenience!
The AC is also part of this wastefulness
I don’t disagree entirely but removing clothing stops being an option at some point and if I’m expected to get work done I’ll be far better at it if the temperature isn’t making me miserable
Layers exist
Just carry half your wardrobe around in and out of the office with you every day. It’s common sense.
Your fashion sense is your own but you might get a little overheated with half of your wardrobe. Unless you’re a real minimalist
Why are US-Americans so stubborn when it comes to metric units? Use ur crappy units in ur country if u like, but on the Internet, most people are NOT from the US and therefore ur numbers mean shit all to us.
I’d say the way you spell “your” and “you” is more annoying
Subtract 32, divide by nine, and multiply by five.
Or subtract thirty and halve it for a rough estimate
Why not both? Lots of places set the climate control to insanely low values, which is uncomfortable, promotes respiratory diseases und wastes energy.
Our office is chilled like a meat locker meaning lots of us have space heaters under our desks, which in turn make the A/C work harder. It’s damn depressing when you’re someone who cares about energy conservation, but my joints can’t take the cold.
Whereas I would be happy working outside until it’s 100* or more.
I just need to change industries.
My company actually realized that an open-plan office with barely controllable AC isn’t very attractive in 2026. Now they’re looking for a new office so they can get rid of the current one.
Good riddance. The building has a (painted) metal facade so mobile reception is crap and you can hear the espresso machine from every point in the office with perfect clarity.
My office does exactly this, it has the thermostat set as cold as it can, and the sensor is in a cooler and shadier part of our floor (where management sit I believe). The rest of us sit in a glass-paned south-facing death trap that fluctuates between 25°C and 15°C multiple times a day on any sunny days. I work from home most of the time so thank fuck I don’t have to experience it during this heatwave.
It makes my throat sore for days and my coworkers set the AC at 16ºC (60 F) working continuously when it’s 21ºC (70 F) outside and raining just because it’s Summer.
16?! That’s simply too cool for an office. Gross. My condolences.
In their mind, if there’s a setting for 16ºC then it’s supposed to be used.
That’s idiotic.
So, that might be due to your company cheaping out by not having the filters cleaned. Had that problem and as soon as the filters were cleaned, the problem stopped. But yeah, if it’s 21 outside, that’s a bit mad to keep at 16.
If it’s 21 C / 70 F outside, just leave all A/C and heating off. You don’t need them.
maybe just maybe, the AC also shouldn’t be on 24/7 at max powrr, that might skew the need of filter changes to way more faster than the recommended one in the manual because who in their right mind would expect someone to max the AC all the time
In our office building the A/C is on 24/7 at the lowest setting only in the server rooms. The rest of the offices depend on people’s preferences. I think they change filters once every two years which isn’t frequent enough.
I’ve been in both — kind of, sort of. At least if it’s too cold, you can bundle up (despite how stupid that is). But when one of your coworkers doesn’t want it on, and you’re then cooking to death… yeah, that’s not fun. Same with idiots in public transit who don’t let you crack the window open to let air in, because “it’s cold/blowing at my head!!”. Bitch, go sit somewhere else then or take a taxi.
Huh, I’ve never been in public transportation where opening a window was an option. All the trains and public buses I’ve been on (in the U.S.) have windows that are permanently shut.
Here’s an example of an older tram. In some the window can be cracked open just a little bit, though.
Interesting. I’ve never ridden in a tram, they don’t exist in the parts of the country I’ve lived in.
It depends. On all our old and new tram models the upper part of the window can be cracked open. Not fully, just enough for the breeze and fresh air to get in. Buses have fixed windows that can’t be opened. Trains — at least in my home country — vary: old ones you can usually slide the entire window open in the hallway(?), but the cabins, IIRC, have the same mechanism like the trams; new ones have fixed windows, IIRC, but they are also air-conditioned, so it’s not a problem.
We use less energy for cooling in the summer than for heating in the winter, and it gets worse because the latter is generally less efficient because that does NOT usually use heat pumps, considering heat pumps are more efficient than just heating with electricity directly (it moves more heat energy than you put in electric energy).
So once you have heat pumps capable of heating installed and ready, to make winter heating more efficient, then it’s trivial to flip some valves to let them cool, so what dumbass would then refuse to use them in the summer when it uses less energy?
If you’re still concerned about the energy use, then install heat capture tech - because both the energy spent and the energy moved becomes heat on the hot side of the pump, you can just extract that heat and store it in for example water for later use, and now the fraction of energy spent on top what you were already going to use is much smaller still.
And that’s assuming you weren’t already powering it with solar.
I would install a heat pump if I could afford it (and wasn’t renting). Unfortunately I have to make-do with a portable ac that’s not powerful enough for my living room.
Heat pumps mentioned, Technology Connections fan spotted
Put your hair up girl!
Yeah! Exorcise my demons!
I’ve been in both. It just makes the a.c situation even more stupid.
Well, faction possibly. But yes
Funny as I read this while wishing I had brought a hoodie with me to the office. I’ve been here for 10 minutes and my back is tense and it’s going to ruin my acclimation to summer.
