• Makhno@lemmy.world
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      Zionism is Atheistic.

      Oh fuck off. Zionism 100% based in the Jewish belief that they are the chosen people and thusly better and more deserving than anyone else.

      Fuck yourself with your white-washing of bad religion.

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        This is your brain on New Atheism.

        Haaretz - How Israel Went From Atheist Zionism to Jewish State

        Zionism as a national movement that rebelled against historical Judaism was mainly atheistic. Most of its leaders and activists ceased believing in redemption through the coming of the Messiah, the long-standing essence of Jewish belief, and took their fate into their own hands. The power of the human subject replaced the power of the omnipotent God.

        The rabbis knew that, and were terrified – and, therefore, almost all of them became avowed anti-Zionists. From Hasidic rebbes Sholom Dovber Schneersohn, the Admor of Lubavitch (Chabad) and Yehudah Aryeh Leib Alter (the Admor of Gur) to leading U.S. Reform Rabbi Isaac Mayer Wise, founder of the Reform Central Conference, mitnagdim and Hasidim, Orthodox, Reform and Conservative, all saw the rise of Zionism as the end of Judaism. Due to the sweeping opposition of the rabbis of Germany, Theodor Herzl was forced to transfer the First Zionist Congress from Munich to the Swiss city of Basel.

        But beginning with the first stages in the consolidation and settlement of the Zionist movement, it was forced to meticulously sort and thoroughly nationalize some of the religious beliefs in order to turn them into nation-building myths.

        For the atheistic Zionists, God was dead and therefore the Holy Land became the homeland; all the traditional holidays became national holidays; and Jerusalem stopped being a heavenly city and became the very earthly capital of an eternal people. But it wasn’t these decisions, or many others, that prevented secular nationalism from serving as the foundation for the establishment of the State of Israel.

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        The point of religion is that the worldly life is a test for people to do good and bad. That is what the whole heaven and hell thing is about. If anything this story is awfully reminiscient of Mozes and the Pharaoh.

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                lol, the salty biblethumper.
                And this is what you clowns call ‘progressive’ LOL

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                  When you have to invent things about people to make your point, you have no point - you’re just showing people you’re an idiot. You’re particulary persistent in demonstrating that point.

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                    you’re all so annoying, can’t get rid of biblethumpers at the door and they wont shut up.
                    Luckily I can block you.
                    Bye moron

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              Reddit atheist would be a few steps up here. This is the kind of teenage edgelord “atheist” that gives the rest of us atheists a bad name.

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              Oh no a godless atheist!
              I’m a backward american, what will I do, I can’t hadnle that?

              And this is what you clowns call ‘progressive’ LOL