- cross-posted to:
- hackernews@lemmy.bestiver.se
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- hackernews@lemmy.bestiver.se
The IT company Mullvad’s founder Daniel Berntsson is behind a giant donation to the populist Örebro Party, which advocates “comprehensive re-immigration” from Sweden. “It’s sad that it’s needed,” he told Flamman.
~ https://www.flamman.se/techprofil-ger-miljoner-till-orebropartiet/
Can we stop with the “proton” supports trump. This has been echoing since the tweet. I understand the initial recoil, I had it myself, but proton as an entity very clearly does not support trump.
By that logic, Mullvad is fine too, because the entity doesn’t support the far right. You are just sending your money to the company which pays the people that do… so…
I mean I’m okay expanding that logic here as well for consistency. This is all on a spectrum, one of Mullvad’s top employees donates millions to far right politician is on the more extreme end of that spectrum than a tweet that failed to read the room.
Taking your counterpoint even further, if you found out some low level employees at any company used a portion of their paycheck to support far right politics would you boycott? Obviously not, which should show you that you don’t believe this should be a binary decision.
To be clear, I feel mullvad crossed the line here, my point was that the proton hate doesn’t compare and is overblown.
Proton itself sponsored a fascist influencer in france like just a couple weeks ago… You can pretend that having a MAGA CEO doesn’t have anything to do with that, and that they would have stopped the sponsorship and caught their “mistake” without significant public backlash if you like, but the dots are connecting to a lot of us watching.
Also, nice strawman, but are they paying the low level employee enough to donate literally millions of dollars? Probably not. Does that low level employee have direct influence over the company? Probably not.
The idea that you stop using Mullvad because the founder personally made a donation to right-wing extremists, but you are fine with using Proton that sponsors fascists and has a CEO that platforms far-right extremists talking points is bonkers. The claim that you are separating “the entity” from the “people” doesn’t even hold water.
That was a sponsorship link anyone was able to use.
They them immediately denounced the fascist and are changing how sponsorship links work.
Vs
Literal founder of company donates millions to literal neo-nazis, doubles down on supporting them
I thought it wasn’t an actual sponsorship, just a referral link system anyone could sign up for and promote.
Exactly correct… And their apology sounded genuine and they took ownership.
OP talking about strawman in my post, yet uses a prime example in theirs.
You’re right. But for some reason, Lemmy has a hate boner for Proton
People just easily believe whatever sounds close enough because everything is awful. I hate these far right fuck heads but honestly the witch hunts for literally everything are just exhausting. I can’t spend my whole life boycotting fucking everything. I just don’t have the fucking energy.
They don’t have a MAGA CEO. That was reddit doing its thing and has been debunked since.
Uh no? Show me where proton donated millions of dollars to fascists. Their CEO made an unbelievably stupid statement, and then walked it back, but they have not materially supported actual Nazis.
Proton’s VPN is sketchy anyway and JS crypto isn’t revolutionary… Or even a good idea really. See tuta and torrent freak for alternatives
https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e
Really good article, definitely worth reading
the fact that it’s been posted by random account that hasn’t been active in any way before or ever since makes me suspect that it’s just some PR damage control.