Not actually spending that much time.
There’s no error, again, many are overthinking this whole damn thing.
It’s not about “equivalency”. Like I’ve already said, it’s not as deep as you think it is.
Just think of a party, insert it in the given place, and the statement most likely still works in one way or another. It’s that simple.
E.g. If socialists were capable of using logic, they wouldn’t be socialists. It’s just a versatile statement. It even works on libertarianism (which is closet to my own position); e.g., inconsistencies between ideals like individual rights and how some actors/coalitions actually behave, e.x. as in the context of libertarian partys unfortunate tendencies to perpetuate racism despite promoting human rights and individualism.
If you were capable of logic you wouldn’t be trying to argue you were right when it was pointed out to you that in this context, on this issue, you are wrong.
Also, libertarianism is really really really stupid, so there’s that.
The point has nothing to do with the context of the previous statement before it. It’s only about how the template applies. Digging too deep into it when the bedrock was surface lvl.
Also, libertarianism is really really really stupid, so there’s that.
How is libertarianism stupid? You’re literally using software made by people whose views closely overlap with libertarian ideology…
It’s fair to say real-world partys and their policies are stupid, sure. But beg to differ that the whole thing is.
Libertarianism isn’t automatically stupid; its emphasis on individual rights; right to privacy, ect. and freedom maps well onto values often found in FOSS : privacy, user control, and the ability to modify software.
What I find stupid is how some real-world groups/platforms apply those ideas (or betray them). That goes back to my original point about how the template applies to most American parties in one way or another.
If libertarian ideals (as practiced by coalitions/actors) were consistently reflected in coalition behavior, then we wouldn’t see X* behavior (e.g., tolerating/partnering with racism) and therefore libertarian-aligned parties in America wouldn’t produce those contradictions but they do produce those contradictions; so, as of what the template is implied to concluded, their not X* (libertarian).
Libertarianism is really really really stupid because in the real world no one pays for high quality roads, light rail network etc, safety nets for folks too ill to work or recently sacked through “reorganisation” etc etc etc unless they’re forced to. Privatised healthcare sucks for most people except the very wealthy, same for education. Libertarianism puts no governmental checks whatsoever on the power of corporations, it’s basically the rule of the jungle where the wealthy get freedom and the poor get slavery back. What stops corporations poisoning you for profits? I’ll give you a clue, it’s not competition. If you don’t regulate, people die. Just because American governments are crap, doesn’t mean governments are unnecessary. Individual liberty is a great concept, yes, but if nobody forces children to share and be considerate, they never learn it. For example, Elon Musk, Donald Trump.
Not actually spending that much time.
There’s no error, again, many are overthinking this whole damn thing.
It’s not about “equivalency”. Like I’ve already said, it’s not as deep as you think it is. Just think of a party, insert it in the given place, and the statement most likely still works in one way or another. It’s that simple. E.g. If socialists were capable of using logic, they wouldn’t be socialists. It’s just a versatile statement. It even works on libertarianism (which is closet to my own position); e.g., inconsistencies between ideals like individual rights and how some actors/coalitions actually behave, e.x. as in the context of libertarian partys unfortunate tendencies to perpetuate racism despite promoting human rights and individualism.
If you were capable of logic you wouldn’t be trying to argue you were right when it was pointed out to you that in this context, on this issue, you are wrong.
Also, libertarianism is really really really stupid, so there’s that.
The point has nothing to do with the context of the previous statement before it. It’s only about how the template applies. Digging too deep into it when the bedrock was surface lvl.
How is libertarianism stupid? You’re literally using software made by people whose views closely overlap with libertarian ideology…
It’s fair to say real-world partys and their policies are stupid, sure. But beg to differ that the whole thing is.
Libertarianism isn’t automatically stupid; its emphasis on individual rights; right to privacy, ect. and freedom maps well onto values often found in FOSS : privacy, user control, and the ability to modify software.
What I find stupid is how some real-world groups/platforms apply those ideas (or betray them). That goes back to my original point about how the template applies to most American parties in one way or another.
If libertarian ideals (as practiced by coalitions/actors) were consistently reflected in coalition behavior, then we wouldn’t see X* behavior (e.g., tolerating/partnering with racism) and therefore libertarian-aligned parties in America wouldn’t produce those contradictions but they do produce those contradictions; so, as of what the template is implied to concluded, their not X* (libertarian).
Is that clear enough?
Libertarianism is really really really stupid because in the real world no one pays for high quality roads, light rail network etc, safety nets for folks too ill to work or recently sacked through “reorganisation” etc etc etc unless they’re forced to. Privatised healthcare sucks for most people except the very wealthy, same for education. Libertarianism puts no governmental checks whatsoever on the power of corporations, it’s basically the rule of the jungle where the wealthy get freedom and the poor get slavery back. What stops corporations poisoning you for profits? I’ll give you a clue, it’s not competition. If you don’t regulate, people die. Just because American governments are crap, doesn’t mean governments are unnecessary. Individual liberty is a great concept, yes, but if nobody forces children to share and be considerate, they never learn it. For example, Elon Musk, Donald Trump.