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  • That perspective is an extremely privileged one. How many lives could be saved every year with that money? How much good could be done?

    OK, let’s assume we do it your way - eliminate the entirety of the Royal Family funding, because they’re “useless”.

    Let’s say the NHS is able to save 34 more lives per year (NHS 2025 budget is £204.7 billion, UK’s population is 69 million, the extra £510 million equates to just about enough money for 34 extra people - maths super simplified, ofc, but I think it’s good enough to show the scales we’re talking about).

    Now - there’s a bunch of jobs some of the Royals do (representative, mostly) that now need to be done by others on a regular employment contract, but let’s ignore all that.

    We get 34 extra lives saved after eliminating what is essentially a large piece of history and culture, large part of which is available to the public.

    So… why stop there? Why not eliminate all museums? Bah, kill the entire DCMS - their budget was a whopping £2.29 billion for the 2025/26 financial year! That’s around 140 extra saved lives if that budget was pushed to NHS!

    You see what I’m getting at?

    Can you give me some reasons to keep the royal family, rather than reasons not to get rid of it?

    Royal families in democratic monarchies often serve similar purposes as the president in countries like Germany or Poland. It’s the Chancellor/Prime Minister who has any actual power, but there’s still a mostly representative President. The president, other than being an extension of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, also often has the power of veto (in the case of Poland: they can send a proposed to be analysed by the Constitutional Tribunal to verify legality), as part of the three-way checks and balances, and has the right of legislative initiative.

    To my knowledge, all of this is also true about the UK King. Sure, they’re not electable, but clearly the people of UK don’t have a problem with that (approval rates in the 60s with only around 30% being strongly against).

    The idea to “save lives” by eliminating a large chunk of culture and history, as well introducing the need to heavily reform how governance in the UK works (which usually means immense costs to implement) would be easier (and cheaper) to achieve by just reforming the NHS.

    It’s the same case as in the US - it’s not the lack of money that’s the problem here. People always complain that US prefers financing their war industry than healthcare, but that’s just completely not true - their military gets around 4% of the federal budget while their healthcare gets 16%. Throwing more money at that bonfire won’t help save people - you need to start by putting the fire out and then cleaning up!

    Thank you for partaking in this conversation in good faith. This is a good conversation.

    Cheers!


  • No? You’re saying you wouldn’t even consider spending the exorbitant amount of money it cost to maintain those purely decorational vases on something else?

    Well, I like vases. People like vases. Some vases being shitty doesn’t make ALL vases shitty.

    And let’s not pretend like the “royal whatnot” upkeep is a major amount of money on a country’s scale. Sure, looking at it itself it seems like a lot, but removing, for example, the UK royal family in its entirety wouldn’t even be noticeable in the overall budget. They cost UK taxpayers around £510 million, whereas the 2025 budget spending was £1,244.9 billion. You’d lower it to £1,244.4 billion. That’s peanuts.

    The issue - on that scale - isn’t the funding itself, it’s that the overall spending of taxpayer money is extremely inefficient.













  • US and UK weren’t one country. US was a UK colony

    Yeah, so exactly as with USSR and Ukraine.

    that’s why they celebrate independence day

    Yeah, so exactly as with USSR and Ukraine.

    The only reason Ukraine and Taiwan want to separate from Russia and China respectively is because of American interference

    Nobody gave a shit about Americans in Ukraine when the Orange Revolution happened, or during the Maidan Protests. They just wanted democracy and re-integration with the West.

    One more time: Ukraine was an independent country around 400 years before Muscovy (proto-russia) became a thing. It got gobbled up by the various superpowers of the area, but always retained its national identity. Culturally, there’s a very clear continuation from the Kyivan Rus all the way to modern day Ukraine.

    You might as well suggest that the Scottish independence movements exist because of “American interference”, even though they existed for hundreds of years before the American Independence.

    You’re just repeating russian propaganda points verbatim, so I don’t know if you’re this ignorant, or a russian bot. If it’s ignorance, feel free to ask questions, I know lots of people are super confused with what’s going on in Ukraine and that area due to russian disinformation campaigns.