Oh please. Look at my first post, dumbass. I just said not to buy an older used EV, and if you do, get one with LifePO4 batteries. You’re just pissed because you don’t know anything and you’re in here trying to argue something you know nothing about.

Like a cat would claim you’re it’s owner.

The bigger killer of lithium EV batteries is age. Not miles they’ve gone. LifePO4 last longest aft what’s commonly available, but the EV cells will go bad after 12 to 20 years no matter if the cars gone 10,000 miles or 300,000 miles. The batteries chemistry simply isn’t stable for long term beyond that.

Lol. Go research where emissions contributing to global warming are coming from. This is like the plastic recycling push in the 80s. The government and big corporations are making it sound like it’s your fault there’s a problem and you could fix it. But that’s total bullshit. They’re the ones causing the majority of the problem, but they’re blaming you for it instead. passenger cars are just a small portion of heat causing pollution.

Ironically enough, making electricity is doing more to polute the earth than ice vehicles. Big corpo keeps burning coal and oil and natural gas to make electricity and the government hasn’t done shit about it because $$$.

You want to save the planet, quit worrying about cars and start doing something about actual large scale pollution. Every single passenger vehicle on the planet could switch to electric this year and it’s not going help save the planet.

I’ve literally have over 20 year old vehicles and it literally has not cost me that much at all for any of them. Not even close. You aren’t spending $15k on an ice vehicle unless your engine and transmission both need replaced and you’re paying someone else to do it.

Oh no. Not the little cheap repairs.

I do repairs myself. But engine coolant is like every 7 years and costs $40. Brakes are $50 every 5+ years. Fun fact, you’re supposed to replace the coolant and may have to replace the coolant pump on EVs as well. They run liquid cooling for the battery and the inverter.

An alternator is typically sub $200 and takes like an hour to replace.

You skipped the most frequent thing. Oil changes.

None of that little stuff at all ads up to the ruining of value cost of a $15,000 battery going bad. I’ve been driving older vehicles for nearly 30 years. I know the costs pretty damned well. Most EVs are still more of a cost sink for regular people than a small ice vehicle that gets 35+ mpg. Tire changes are less frequent and cheaper. The upfront cost of an EV is more, the resell value is a bigger loss, and you’re not saving that much in fuel unless you can charge your ev for free. It’s getting pretty close to the tipping point, and it will get there, but it hasn’t yet. Not unless you’re in a country that gives you access to low cost Chinese made EVs.

OMG. So first of all, I literally have two working ice vehicles right now that are over 20 years old… So lol to how ignorant you are on the subject.

Which also flows right into old EV batteries being used for power storage. A 20 year old EV battery would be absolute dogshit for power storage. Like I said before, it isn’t a cycle degradation issue as much as a time issue. The battery chemistry cause cell failure over time. It can’t be meaningfully used for energy storage. The cells go BAD.

I just can’t believe SO many people are blowing their money on it, if it truly will only effect 4% of users.

It’s completely self proclaimed, but I’m a battery guy and electronics and automotive repair type of guy. Right down to rebuilding my gen 2 Prius battery that now has about 300,000 miles (482,000 km) on it, including when the original battery failed.

You should worry about both of those things if you’re buying used.

Prius batteries last so long because they keep a pretty narrow charge\discharge range, despite the total batteries capacity.

But beyond that, the EV batteries in almost all the fully electric vehicles on the road don’t have a km used until failure issue. They have an age issue. Lithium batteries have a shelf life, so to speak. It doesn’t matter if the battery has 30,000 km on it or 300,000 km. None of them will last beyond 20 years before they start going bad and there’s nothing you can do about it.

That being said, LifePO4 are absolutely the most chemically stable and long lasting lithium based battery currently in any EV’s. if you’re in the market for an older EV with a lithium battery, either plan on replacing the entire battery at some point (check how much it may cost you. Ranges from $6,000 to over $25,000 in some cases) or at least find one that uses LifePO4 as the battery.

Jury is still out on the semi solid state or solid state batteries. Sodium based batteries “should” outlast the vehicle they’re in, but there aren’t many in production outside of China yet and they aren’t as energy dense so will typically be in shorter ranged vehicles.

It totally sucks that everything is littered with hard to get to and expensive to replace electronics they all use. It will be a pain trying to have a classic ev in the future when caps start leaking everywhere and you can’t find replacement necessary to function touchscreens.

That kitty is a short hair. No way was it matted so badly it needed to be cut off.

I have the non rgb variant in ddr4 as a 32GB set I picked up a couple years ago from a Bin Store for like $6. :-\

FU. We’re staying on Dean Dean for now.

It actually changes all the time. It uses mostly questions and time constraints that someone with little education can accurately take and the median score of 100 is adjusted based on the average of recent (ish) people who have taken the tests.

It does only test specific things of “intelligence” and isn’t all encompassing. Hypothetically speaking, Mozart would be considered a genius in regards to music, even if he would have scored an 80 on an IQ test, because what an IQ tests checks has fuck all to do with music composition and wouldn’t tell you a thing about it.

IQ is just a data point.

“Ow my balls” isn’t a downgrade in tv entertainment these days.

Dong (his lil face)

Pretty much every bird looks cuter than adults after a couple weeks old.

Baby birds all cuter after they like 2 weeks old. A ton of newborn things look pretty ugly.

Yeah, but that news won’t make a boardroom happy.

Everyone knows there’s no such thing as a ten second rule.

It’s a five second rule.

Also, to the shit thing; it’s a very well established fact that shit spreads tons of disease and infections. You sound dirty for just trying to bring up the counter point of getting some shit on you at birth and I don’t want to shake your hand.

Also, the 5 second rule is bullshit. Those people are yucky.

A cat figured out how to use my doggy door about a year ago.

Now I have a cat.