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8 hours agoAnd you sound like the dipshits who couldn’t be arsed to read in basic education and is now annoyed they’re childish insults don’t actually constitute arguments.
Must be a bitch being dumb, huh?
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same Wikipedia page to a word nobody is talking about.
Because if you read it and weren’t an uneducated moron it would show give the history of the second person plural in English, you dipshit.
What is so hard to understand about this sentence:
It is now largely archaic, having been replaced in most contexts by the word you, although it remains in use in parts of Northern England and in Scots (/ðu:/ dhoo
What is so hard to understand about this sentence?
The practice of matching singular and plural forms with informal and formal connotations is called the T–V distinction and in English is largely due to the influence of French.
Oh wait right, you’re an uneducated (and definitely monolinguistic) dipshit, I can see how you wouldn’t have the slightest idea of what that’s about.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T–V_distinction
Just because you can use a large screwdriver to hammer in a nail does not make it a fucking hammer.
So because you’re ignorant of the basics of linguistics, perhaps you should keep your ignorant mouth shut?
Do you say “you is” or “you are”?
You is joking, surely.
If you actually spoke other languages or listened in any linguistics class you’ve ever had, you might be able to understand. But you aren’t.
By what perverted fucking reading do you get that from?
I’m not the one who makes up the definitions of academic linguistics.
Because it wasn’t a second person singular 300 years ago it can’t be one today?
Really? That’s the best you can come up with? A shitty strawman?
Just because you USE Y as X doesn’t mean Y becomes X. Is that so hard to comprehend? English STILL, TO THIS DAY, has a second person singular which is in use.
If we were having this conversation 500 years in the futures where the second person plural is something like (ewww) “y’all” exclusively and there wasn’t anyone using “thou” and the language had changed to treating “you” as the second person singular, THEN we could maybe consider your strawman.
But we aren’t, it hasn’t, and “thou” is still used. Wait a second… Feels line we’ve been over that fact…
OH YEAH
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thou
The word thou (/ðaʊ/) is a second-person singular pronoun in English. It is now largely archaic, having been replaced in most contexts by the word you, although it remains in use in parts of Northern England and in Scots (/ðu:/ dhoo).
Do you have a hard time understanding those two sentences? Do you know what “largely” means when attached to a word like “archaic”? Do you know what “remains in use” means?
Hey if the proper grammar is to say “he is going” but “you are going”, would you mind explaining why you’d use the plural form of the verb with the second person singular? Hmm?
You will just never be able to admit being wrong about this. It’s a shame, because it will limit your potential very badly.
Too bad you can’t use the resources that it takes for a multi-trillion dollar weapons industry to uh… no, wait. You totally could.
K3wl
Also equality of the sexes and race equality. Unless you’re pretending like white men haven’t been an utterly and overly privileged group in the world in the recent and not so recent past?
It’s not. And this really isn’t complex.
If you shit in a bucket, that doesn’t make the bucket a toilet seat. If you use a stone to hammer in a nail, it doesn’t become a hammer. It’s still a rock, and eveyone would refer to it as a rock.
Hell, you could use a nail-gun as a hammer. And thus kt would be “a tool to help nails go in”, but it wouldn’t be a hammer, per se.
“You” is not a second person singular despite being used as one.
This really isn’t complex, you guys.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thou
the plural forms, ye and you, began to also be used for singular: typically for addressing rulers, superiors, equals, inferiors, parents, younger persons, and significant others.
“Plural forms.” “Used as.”
What’s so hard to understand about this I don’t get it.
Like I said, you’ll never admit to being wrong. You’re literally incapable.
Here, let me just make this even simpler for you with an example, as I know you Americans have difficulties with anything intellectual
Okay, so, imagine having a fancy new nail gun. Except you don’t know it’s a nail gun. And you just use it to bang in nails. Just because you use it as a hammer doesn’t make it one. If your boss came along and said “we need to nail things to this wall”, you’d correctly get the right tool. However, if your boss said “get me a hammer” and you got the nail gun you stupidly use to hammer in nails, your boss is gonna laugh at you.
You is used as a second person singular. If you spoke any other languages or even raid the starting paragraph of the short Wiki article I linked twice already, you’d know why it is exactly so that it is a second person plural used as a singular, and not the other way around.
But no, because you’re illiterate and cognitively lazy, but can’t admit it to yourself, you just simply will never admit to being wrong. We could have a professor of linguistics here telling you this, and you’d still continue your tantrum.
I know you won’t understand this, but in my native and agglunative language, we use second person plurals to show respect. That’s how it was in English as well, but since English isn’t agglunative, it doesn’t really affect the grammar around it much, so it was easy to just default to the second person plural, because that was safer than accidentally offending someone. This is literally stated in the article you refuse to open (because it proves you wrong.)
Starting in the 1300s, thou and thee were used to express familiarity, informality, or contempt, for addressing strangers, superiors, or inferiors, or in situations when indicating singularity to avoid confusion was needed; concurrently, the plural forms, ye and you, began to also be used for singular: typically for addressing rulers, superiors, equals, inferiors, parents, younger persons, and significant others.
Notice how it says “plural forms USED AS”? No? Can’t even address the article or the history or anything actually objective? Just “wyaaa wyaaa wyaaa I’m not wrong bcus bcus bcus ur stoopid”?
the uncertainty of using thou for inferiors versus you for superiors (with you being the safer default)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thou#History
I’ve seen this tantrum literally a million times.
No shit. It’s called “stopping the absolute racism and sexism and just like, not being a cunt”.
Like I said, you’ll never accept being wrong.
You don’t understand the basics of linguistics and currently you’re arguing against an established fact. Your opinion doesn’t matter fuck all.
Just because you don’t use a second person singular (ie the colloquial language lacks one, especially in Southern Usa) doesn’t mean you don’t have one.
Not just in southern America but everywhere
No matter how much you cry and whine, you’re still wrong.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thou
I know “y’all” have a hard time with literacy and English in general, but even you should be able to understand what “remains in use” means.
it remains in use in parts of Northern England and in Scots
Yet thou said “everywhere”, almost as if thou is having trouble accepting thy mistakes…? ;>
You is used as a second person singular in modern Southern-American English (ie Bumfuckcousinfuckernowhereville), but “thou” is the existing and non-used second person singular.
Why would you even ask about this when it’s so fucking easy to Google it?
The word thou (/ðaʊ/) is a second-person singular pronoun in English. It is now largely archaic, having been replaced in most contexts by the word you, although it remains in use in parts of Northern England and in Scots (/ðu:/ dhoo). Thou is the nominative form; the oblique/objective form is thee (functioning as both accusative and dative); the possessive is thy (adjective) or thine (as an adjective before a vowel or as a possessive pronoun); and the reflexive is thyself.
Note that it doesn’t say “completely unused or archaic”. No. It’s largely archaic, and mostly replaced by the second person plural “you”. MOSTLY.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thou
You seem to not know English well so I’ll just note that “mostly” means a different thing than “completely.” And “remains in use” means it’s still used.
In the 18th century, Samuel Johnson, in A Grammar of the English Tongue, wrote: “in the language of ceremony … the second person plural is used for the second person singular”,
He didn’t write “the second person singular is used for the second person plural”, but the other way.
Thou are just dead wrong, which is very easy to check, but thou will never admit to it.
No, you lack a second person singular, but that’s just because thou refuses to employ it, not because it doesn’t exist.
English personal pronouns
The second-person singular pronouns are thou, thee, thy, thine, thyself.
Personally I’d prefer using the already existing 2nd person singular instead of starting to use “y’all” for a second person plural, but my opinion doesn’t really matter here, so you know, fuck me and you do you.
I’d imagine they’d have an easier time naming the ingredients of the bread they eat than Americans could
Uh, yeah, water, flour, salt and yeast.
But if you’re talking about not cooking yourself, then you’re saying Americans are lazier at cooking things?
I can assure you we have lazy people too, but it’s clearly the regulation which is the issue in the US. Even my dad who was fat by our standards was just completely fucking mindblown of the shape of Americans when he helped them in a Moomin theme park he worked at (as a road train-driver, don’t worry it’s an equally confusing in whatever language you use).
This thing.
hfcs is always a cheap crowd pleaser that can hide the flavor of substandard ingredients and processes.
Not for everyone.
German tries American cola for the first time.
So do you think Americans are just lazier at cooking? But loads of that it also due to food deserts, which are much larger of a problem in the US than in Europe. Also, bad education.
Y’all notice the lack of truly hard data
First of all, speak English, this isn’t Bumfuckcousinfuckernowhereville.
Secondly, oh no “hard data” on European food deserts? Because we really don’t have them like the US. Even if our cities tried planning as shit as yours, around a completely car centric culture, they really can’t because the routes and buildings that have existed for centuries just don’t allow for that. And that’s saying if we even had someone doing that. We don’t.
Compare public transport and social security in EU vs US.
Stark contrast.
Compare design philosophy of cities.
Stark contrast.
Compare to American food regulation.
Stark contrast.
I know you never want to admit that the US is worse in anything, but now you’re just genuinely being ridiculous.
In the US you sometimes literally can’t walk out of a neighbourhood, because anything surrounding it is private land and there’s no curb to walk on. So get driven over or shot by some angry land owner. And that wasn’t me making that up, word for word for Americans said in a thread not long ago.
I can walk through any fucking field or woods I feel like, no matter who owns it.
Oh akd also everyone’s not strapped so even if they did get mad, my chances of getting shot are way smaller.
The US is a garbage country and the sooner you accept it the sooner we can fix it.
Feels like the headline is saying “some people” are wrong.
Around when I was 16, a bunch of really fit and slim girls from our town left to be exchange students in the US.
They all came back with roughly 10-15kg more than they had when they left. Said all bread tasted like dessert.
1·11 days agoI would love some al dente carbonara right now. Unfortunately I think I’m oversensitive to gluten and dairy proteins. I’ve been trying for a few years now and that’s the conclusion I somewhat have to draw. Which sucks balls.
And I’m not Mongolian, dammit.