Okay, I think we are going to continue to disagree. I understand that your position is to support thr PSL in leu of either the DNC and GOP. I dont expect you to engage further. My final pushback is that PSL does not hold seats or win elections to my knowledge, and if they aren’t holding seats, they are not serving an electoral function for us.

If you categorically discount the people in politics, our most visible rhetorical speakers, as being part of a consent manfactury, how do you suppose we will ever aquire the broad appeal necessary to build a large coalition of workers? Unions are not up to the task in 2025 (in part due to political decisions that have weakened them)

Fascists spend hundreds of millions on each election cycle. Clearly they care

Im literally just telling folks to not engage in the same behavior that the fascists hope we engage in.

Yeah, that’s what im talking about

The west doesnt need to decline for developing countries to rise tho. I mean, oil hegemony needs to decline, but the west isn’t the sole benefactor of oil supremacy. Literally just get global renewable production to 80% and global instability shrinks massively.

Dems as a whole are more left wing today than they were 20 years ago, but cool graphic

You’re right, I dont know that they are a psyop. I do, however, know that the position of ‘voting is not worthwhile if you are a leftist’ that they are taking above is the same position that many psyops would like to have in the minds of leftists. Put more simply, what might they have said differently if they were a psyop? Nothing, I presume.

It is better to root out psyop talking points that diminish our ability to form a collective voice, than it is to allow foolish notions like ‘dont vote’ to continue in our spaces.

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What could be more of a psyop than implying that voting for the left-most available, competitive candidate is a bad idea

Stop trying to divide the left with your nonsense

Finally, someone who’s doing the important work