Don’t worry. Burning Teslas will help increase awareness.

No-one should be sending money to fascists.

Difficult to get public sympathy if you hit the meat shield.

The opposite of that statement is:-

How about stop fucking buying cars that are sold by a fascist and are being burned by anti-fascists

No that’s the thing, it won’t only be when you buy a Tesla, it will be when you do whatever the mob terrorists deem wrong.

That’s true for vigilantism in general, but Tesla vandalism is not really targeting the owners.

Nor is it a Mob because the attacks are decentralized, not organised.

Various people are deciding to perform criminal acts independently of each other.

Think of it more like extreme consumer activism than vandalism.

Insurance premiums will rise across the board.

No. Only on Teslas.

Ask two or three insurance companies if you don’t want to take my word for it.

OK. Just did so. They agree with me.

You have no idea how insurance businesses operate.

I do. The insurance business prices risks. Tesla vandalism only affects Teslas so only their premiums are affected. Any insurance company that tries to increase BMW insurance premiums because of Tesla risks will sell less insurance.

Holy shit. Did you just invoke Martin Niemöller in defense of a Nazi?

Unbelievable.

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Again, maybe one days you will be on the receiving end of such despicable attacks on private citizens,

Only if I buy a Tesla.

Insurance prices will rise across the board

Nope. This vandalism risk is only related to Tesla.

also for other brands.

Why? They are not being vandalised, have no change in risk so have no premium adjustment.

That is just how insurance works.

You obviously have no idea how insurance works.

You can impact new car sales simply by encouraging people to not buy a new Tesla.

Agreed.

You don’t need to destroy people’s private property to accomplish that goal.

Vandalism accomplishes the goal faster and more aggressively

You are condoning terrorism. Do better.

I’m condoning nothing. I will even explicitly say Don’t Vandalise Cars. Happy?

What I am doing is explaining how Musk is affected if people continue to vandalise Teslas.

Maybe one day you will be on the receiving end of such despicable attacks on private citizens and only then you might change your mind.

Maybe I’ve already sold my Tesla and I’m no longer supporting Musk in any shape or form. I might be changing the mind of a Tesla owner currently reading this.

You do not get to dictate what cars people get to buy, nor what kind of insurance they must have.

Agreed. You are free to choose your own car along with it’s associated running costs.

That is not how insurance works, premiums will go up for everyone.

It is how insurance works. If causes of risks can be directly identified and measured then they can be directly priced. Any insurer not doing so will lose business.

who are they going to sell it to?

They will have to drop the price until they find a buyer. That will affect new car sales and damage Musk further. See how this works?

Whoever buys it will also suffer from the vandalism you encourage.

Yep. For a low enough price, people may be willing to take the vandalism risk and also become a social pariah.

Tesla owners are already losing money in terms of resale value.

Money comes from an insurance write off or a second hand sale.

You know people can attack Tesla’s future income stream simply by not buying a Tesla.

And you can attack it even more by dissuading other people too.

There’s no need to destroy random citizens private property

There is a need if faster results are sought.

and we already established they are not made whole by insurance.

Then sell before it’s vandalised.

is naive to think insurance prices will only rise for future Tesla owners.

This is how insurance works. Brands, models and even colors have different premiums.

If I disagree with something you do, that does not justify me destroying your private property.

It’s not about the Tesla owner directly. It’s about damaging Musk.

I should state that I am not going to damage anyone’s private property, but current and future Tesla owners should be aware of the logic behind the attacks and act appropriately.

Not everybody has insurance that covers vandalism.

Tesla owners should upgrade quickly.

Most people have a deductible they need to pay before the insurance kick in.

True. However the main financial impact on current Tesla owners is the falling 2nd hand market price. Current owners are already losing out. Nothing can be done about that.

You are forcing people to take time out of their day to take the car to the shop for repairs and/or have to deal with long administrative tasks.

So sell the Telsa if that is a worry.

Premiums would not only go up for future Tesla owners.

If only Teslas are vandalised then only that brands premiums are affected.

People are attacking Teslas future income stream.

That means they are attacking the current Tesla share price.

That means they are attacking Musk.

Normal people are compensated by insurance.

Future tesla owners will need to pay higher insurance premiums.

You would be attacking Musk. The users of the product get compensated. In fact, an insurance write off is a better financial option than the second hand market.

Nah. The random private citizens get the insurance money. Premiums only go up for future Tesla owners.

This only hurts the people who own a tesla long term.

If they can’t scrap or sell then an insurance write of is the best way to reclaim the value.

What? This has nothing to do with politics of the consumer. YOU haven’t thought this through.

The point is to damage Musk. If you continue to use his products (rather than sell or scrap) then you are part of the problems.

This is true for cars, websites, AI, satellite connectivity etc.

It will only hurt people who continue to own Teslas when they renew their insurance. They are part of the demographic supporting Musk, so fuckem.

If they are insured, no.

Insurance premiums will go up on teslas.

Then people will buy less tesla.

Then Musk will get margin called.

Because this is one of the only ways to attack a billionaire.