Don’t forget that many were drafted and lied to.

I’ll give you that for vietnam… but even those fellas aren’t around in any great numbers anymore. I’ll even grant the first gulf war as a neutral, seeing as kuwait was invaded, but the politics around everything involved doesn’t really leave any ‘good guys.’

But anything since then? Fuck right off with that. My cousin went and joined up after 9/11, and it still is a mental fuck for him because he realized once he got there how idiotic the country was being to invade another with the idea of bringing freedom.

For dprk, it’s not so much “bring the war to us” as ‘completely flatten seoul in minutes with the enormous amount of artillery they have pointing at it,’ which of course makes south korea a little nervous. Then there’s the possibility of mid range nukes hitting us allies which makes them nervous. I’m quite honestly on the fence about whether anyone in the current us administration would even care. We know trump would merely shrug.

The seals were approached by a fishing boat who had heard their ruckus, and murdered them. The us has a thing for killing fishermen.