What golden age lmao?

You may want to reattach your arse. Wikipedia has a whole article about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_age_of_Jewish_culture_in_Spain

Contrast that with how non-Jews faired and are fairing under Jewish rule. The Torah instructs the elimination of other people, just read what it says about the Amalekites and Midianites. The Jewish king of Yemen burnt 4000-20000 Christians. Israel today even before the genocide in Gaza subjugated Palestinians to brutal and humiliating rule, where they are imprisoned, tortured and forcefully evicted from their homes.

We are all aware of how brutal Christians have been to non-Christians, I don’t need to cite any examples.

This was before the establishment of Israel, this was before the end of WWII,

You are engaging in historical revisionism. Jews weren’t persecuted or expelled in Iraq, the Mossad engaged in false flag operations and smuggling of Jews. Zionism and Jewish migration to Palestine predate WW2 and the Holocaust, and the Mossad in various forms was active before 1948. Zionist gangs had already committed massacres against the Palestinians in the 1930s. The Iraqi government tried to prevent Jews from leaving. Iraq at the time was also under British mandate, it wasn’t an independent state. I suggest reading what Avi Shlaim an Iraqi Jewish scholar and historian wrote about it, you seem to be parroting the Zionist narrative without any evidence: https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/2023/09/the-history-of-arab-jews-can-change-our-understanding-of-the-world

they both hated and wanted to exterminate Jews

The Nazis sure, but the Arab Muslims? That’s an ignorant take. You ignore 1500 years of Jewish history in the Arab and Muslim world and the influential role they played. And instead claim Muslims wanted to exterminate Jews based on violence that happened in reaction to Zionism, and use it as justification for Zionism. Completely ignoring the role of false flag attacks in the resulting chaos. https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/avi-shlaim-proof-israel-zionist-involvement-iraq-jews-attacks European Jewish migration to Palestine started before WW2. Zionist violence against Palestinians was already a common occurrence in the 1930s. Zionists were already trying to lure Arab Jews to Palestine before the end of WW2. The only Arab government that expelled its Jews was Egypt as a consequence of the 1967 war after some were caught spying for Israel. Every other Arab government was either ambivalent or tried to stop Jewish migration to Palestine.

The antisemitism in Iraq was very strong even after WWII, and the Jews of the country were traumatized from what they went through so they lived their lives covertly.

How does that justify the genocide and ethnic cleansing of Palestine? Palestinians had no say in the matter. Palestinians don’t owe Jewish people reparations for what happened to them in Egypt, Iraq or elsewhere. Arabs aren’t some generic people. If you were from Iraq, you should know that Iraq on its own is diverse with different factions with varying and conflicting interests. You can’t turn around and claim that Iraqis and Palestinians are generic Arabs and what Iraqis did to Jews, justify the crimes Israel is committing against Palestinians.

Palestine isn’t Iraq. What happened in Iraq doesn’t justify what’s happening in Palestine, even if you insist that the attacks weren’t false flags, which they were.

This is why when people try to pretend that Israel/Palestine conflict is one sided are so mind numbingly ignorant.

In the conflict between Israel and Palestine. there’s an aggressor and a victim. A colonizer and a colonized. What happened to Jews in Europe or other countries is not relevant and doesn’t justify the crimes and genocide they inflicted upon Palestinians.

PS: I recommend you read and watch what Avi Shlaim has to say about it. As an Iraqi Jew who has lived through that turbulent time and a historian he is far more qualified than someone who parrots Zionist propaganda and historical revisionism. His accounts are first hand and he is a historian. You repeat the same Zionist argument that justifies brutalizing Palestinians based on what happened in Iraq 80 years ago.

Palestine Talks | Professor Avi Shlaim says “anti-Semitism was an European, not Arab problem”

Because it borderline sounded like you claimed Jews simply appeared there during WW2 and started occupying whatever they could.

It started before WW2, but that’s basically what happened. It is a colonizing mission and they admit it themselves.

It doesn’t matter if you, a muslim, were born in opposite side of the world. There is a place where it will be always sacred for you, a home, written in blood and history, a home disregarded by many, but then those many keep finding Jewish artifacts there.

It does matter. Muslims from Malaysia or wherever have no right to expel the indigenous people of Makkah and Medina if one day they converted to another religion. Just because they Zionist invaders are Jews doesn’t give them a right to colonize Palestine. Palestinians don’t lose their right to their ancestral lands because they are no longer practicing Judaism or Christianity. It is not a sensible argument. Would neo-pagans who worship Zeus have a right to expel Greeks because the majority of Greeks today are Christian? Zionist settlers have no legal or historical right to Palestine.

But the thing is, that argument is never used in real life, by anyone, and so you’re not hearing counter-arguments. No one is saying that Russia wants to take over Baltics because genetic or historical presence. That is simply not an argument here, and I don’t think you fully understand what “Slav” is, as it’s not some Russian origins. At least I’m not aware of it. I also never claimed that about Israel and Gaza (you keep assuming things, falsely).

So Russians only need to make the argument for them to have the right to colonize the rest of Eastern Europe? Russians are Slavs who speak a Slavic language.

Israel has expanded far beyond what is theirs.

None of it is theirs. European, Iranian, Amazigh and Indian settlers reviving Hebrew and practicing Judaism are still not indigenous to Palestine and have no claims to it whatsoever.

How is this relevant to 2025? But because you brought it up, here’s a quote by none other than Israel’s first prime minister.

“The fellahin are not descendants of the Arab conquerors, who captured Eretz Israel and Syria in the seventh century CE. The Arab victors did not destroy the agricultural population they found in the country. They expelled only the alien Byzantine rulers, and did not touch the local population. Nor did the Arabs go in for settlement. Even in their former habitations the Arabs did not engage in farming…their whole interest in the new countries was political, religious and material: to rule, to propagate Islam, and to collect taxes…the Jewish farmer, like any other farmer, was not easily torn from his soil…Despite the repression and suffering the rural population remained unchanged.” [7]

Also the Roman Exile ended with the Muslim conquest of the Levant.

In 638 CE the Byzantine Empire lost control of the Levant. The Arab Islamic Empire under Caliph Omar conquered Jerusalem and the lands of Mesopotamia, Syria, Palestine and Egypt. As a political system, Islam created radically new conditions for Jewish economic, social, and intellectual development.[132] Caliph Omar permitted the Jews to reestablish their presence in Jerusalem–after a lapse of 500 years.[133] Jewish tradition regards Caliph Omar as a benevolent ruler and the Midrash (Nistarot de-Rav Shimon bar Yoḥai) refers to him as a “friend of Israel”.[133]

So how again are you staying a centrist on a genocide of the indigenous peoples by foreign settlers? Mr./Mrs. History Buff? Does it make sense to go near 2000 years to justify a genocide when the modern settlers aren’t even from the region? Would you do the same and say Russians are Balto-Slavic people and returning to their ancestral lands? There’s more a more recent genetic and historical presence in Eastern Europe for Russians than there is for Zionist settlers in Palestine.

The origin and migration of Slavs in Europe between the 5th and 10th centuries AD:

As qualified as any of them

You’d be wrong though. Hamas targeted soldiers not tourists. You are blaming the deaths resulting from the Hannibal Directive on Hamas.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-officers-invoked-defunct-hannibal-protocol-during-oct-7-fighting-report/

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-07/israel-hannibal-directive-kidnap-hamas-gaza-hostages-idf/104224430

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/yoav-gallant-admits-to-authorising-hannibal-directive-during-october-7-attack-7663931

Putting Hannibal Directive aside. Let’s say if Russian troops occupied your country for a number of years or decades and eventually hosted a concert on your former hometown, then some resistance group ended up killing some tourists at the concert during the crossfire. Would you be both-siding it?

Let’s assume you would view both sides: the invaders and the resistance as bad, would that justify a genocide?

And Palestine is being ethnically cleansed and genocided by the same apocalyptic Jewish and Christian thinking. Religious apocalypticism aside, in Palestine there is a clear victim and aggressor. You don’t even have to take my words for it. Take Israel’s first prime minister’s words:

“Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country. … Behind the terrorism [by the Arabs] is a movement, which though primitive is not devoid of idealism and self sacrifice.” — David Ben Gurion. Quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky’s Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan’s “Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.

But they are stuck in the Iron Age. They believe God gave them Palestine.

“If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?” David Ben-Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.

[emphasis mine]

The 1967 war was preemptive. Israel started it. Then again, they also started the 1948 war in November 1947 months before Arab armies got involved.

https://theintercept.com/2017/06/05/a-50-year-occupation-israels-six-day-war-started-with-a-lie/

Would you rather read it from a Zionist? How do you feel about the first Israeli prime minister?

“If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?” David Ben-Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.

One more by the same person:

“Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country. … Behind the terrorism [by the Arabs] is a movement, which though primitive is not devoid of idealism and self sacrifice.” — David Ben Gurion. Quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky’s Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan’s “Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.

Yet Jews had their Golden Age in Spain under Muslim rule and returned to Jerusalem after a 500 year Roman exile after the Muslim conquest of the Levant.

They were lured to Israel but with the exception of Egypt they weren’t expelled. Iraq went as far as prohibiting Jews from leaving and the Mossad did false flag attacks to encourage them to leave secretly.

Yet Jews had their Golden Age in Spain during Muslim rule before the Reconquista.

This hate is easily explained by reading what Zionist leaders have said themselves:

“If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?”

David Ben-Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.

Wouldn’t you? I don’t think anyone would be okay with being relegated to less than 20% of their land by foreign invaders

“Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country. … Behind the terrorism [by the Arabs] is a movement, which though primitive is not devoid of idealism and self sacrifice.”

— David Ben Gurion. Quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky’s Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan’s “Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938

You don’t need Aljazeera to know the truth, just read what Zionist wrote and said themselves. The following is a quote by Jabotinsky:

“[It is the] iron law of every colonizing movement, a law which knows of no exceptions, a law which existed in all times and under all circumstances. If you wish to colonize a land in which people are already living, you must provide a garrison on your behalf. Or else – or else, give up your colonization, for without an armed force which will render physically impossible any attempts to destroy or prevent this colonization, colonization is impossible, not “difficult”, not “dangerous” but IMPOSSIBLE! … Zionism is a colonizing adventure and therefore it stands or falls by the question of armed force. It is important to build, it is important to speak Hebrew, but, unfortunately, it is even more important to be able to shoot – or else I am through with playing at colonialization.”

As quoted by Lenni Brenner, in The Iron Wall: Zionist Revisionism from Jabotinsky to Shamir (1984), where the quotation is cited as being from “The Iron Law”

There’s more quotes by other Zionists that make no doubt that Israelis are the aggressors and Palestinians are the victims. There’s no two sides to colonialism and ethnic cleansing.

Palestinians and Israelis aren’t brothers though. One is indigenous fighting for his land and the other is a settler on an apocalyptic colonizing mission because he claims God gave it to him 2500 years ago.

“Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country. … Behind the terrorism [by the Arabs] is a movement, which though primitive is not devoid of idealism and self sacrifice.”

— David Ben Gurion. Quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky’s Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan’s “Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938

You may want to check this out The Nazi Connection: Eugenics, American Racism, and German National Socialism

Most of its neighbours have islamic fundamentalist governments,

This is false

or otherwise have authoritarian power structures that will have to bend to the religious right in times of crisis

this is mostly true but they tend to be anti-Islamist

Hamas isn’t the problem. Both Hamas and the PA tried peace and a 2-state solution along 1967 borders. The Arab League offered peace and normalization to Israel on similar terms in 2002. Israel, specifically the right which keeps winning elections, rejected all peace attempts. Netanyahu’s party the Likud adheres to the ideology of Jabotinsky and refuses any Palestinian statehood at all:

[It is the] iron law of every colonizing movement, a law which knows of no exceptions, a law which existed in all times and under all circumstances. If you wish to colonize a land in which people are already living, you must provide a garrison on your behalf. Or else – or else, give up your colonization, for without an armed force which will render physically impossible any attempts to destroy or prevent this colonization, colonization is impossible, not “difficult”, not “dangerous” but IMPOSSIBLE! … Zionism is a colonizing adventure and therefore it stands or falls by the question of armed force. It is important to build, it is important to speak Hebrew, but, unfortunately, it is even more important to be able to shoot – or else I am through with playing at colonialization.

As quoted by Lenni Brenner, in The Iron Wall: Zionist Revisionism from Jabotinsky to Shamir (1984), where the quotation is cited as being from “The Iron Law”

Jabotinsky wanted to go further and claim both banks of the Jordan river. Today in Israel talks of annexing Lebanon, Syria and beyond as part of Greater Israel are becoming more mainstream.

This is not the first pollster that finds these results. You are probably just unfamiliar with how fascist Israeli society is.

You ignore the celevlbrating of deaths

Israelis celebrate the slaughter of Palestinians. So by your own logic Israelis deserve to be genocided.