They took em down by torturing and killing the kids. It should have been shut down FULL STOP. My problem was the method by which they shut them down and intitial reason for the ATF investigation (had zero to do with pedophilia). As stated in other comments though, I think the leader was a pedophile and should have been prosecuted.

Hard disagree. They literally killed almost all the kids lmao. Hate Christians as much as you want, that’s a right I support you having. Hate whoever you want why ever you want. But setting the precedent that you abolish religious groups by any means necessary (like prolonged torture and firebombing) will absolutely not lead to good outcomes or a good state. Giving Carte Blanche to eradicate groups of suspected behavior like that is how you end up with a whole lot of innocent deaths. To be clear, I believe he was a pedophile and should have individually been prosecuted along with many of the adults who went along with it. I don’t think a multi month torture session followed by firebombing was the right move. Advocating for more like it is wild.

I’m beginning to understand that.

They killed almost all the kids after torturing all of them for weeks. If it was a pedophile investigation, why was the ATF solely handling it prior to the FBI taking over due to death. Not saying David wasn’t a pedophile or shouldn’t have been killed but you’re using a lot of strange logic to try and dunk on 2A. As well as defending the actions these goons took when they LITERALLY TORTURED AND MURDERED 82 humans including 28 children. No they didn’t rape them first, that doesn’t make what they did/how they did it okay or justified.

That would be pretty sweet.

Good job friend

Comments like that gonna get you/him raided lmao

Wasn’t on the meme when I received it.

Yeah, I like everything you’re saying.

Probably

Wonder what they think when the smoke is just orange and full of glitter.

Harder to enforce nonsense and control personal choices with those.

Personal hobbies are okay. A life including service shouldn’t deprive you of that.

Can you expand on them a bit? I don’t mind getting a book and reading it but I’d like to hear what you like about it.

I don’t disagree with most of these. Would get rid of a ton of the seemingly parasitic portions of the US government. Aggressive term limits like that would inherently force change very quickly. I’ve discussed that with a very politically involved friend (far left works in DC). His argument was always along the lines of things move slow so career politician’s are needed to actually enact change. If its forced to speed up though, maybe that’s good? I’m not really sure honestly. One charismatic populist/small group of charismatic populist could make a huge amount of change in a short span of time. Positive or negative. I do think they should be compensated for their terms at a pretty high level though, say 200k a year with the same benefits a basic federal worker gets. With the stipulation that they can’t trade or earn from a related secondary source of income while in office. We want them to be elite thinkers/doers so we should pay them that way. I really like 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 9. I appreciate how organized and detailed you were. Sorry my response is kinda scatterbrained.

Hell yeah thats fair

Fair point

Already got one and I’m not a bad pipefitter when needed anyway.

Yeah didn’t really answer either of my questions.

You’re not really selling it lol