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  • To frame it better:

    Let’s say I cloned arch, changed the default wallpaper to a swastika, put up a blogpost saying “Heil hitler”, and then suddenly got over 50X donations than an actually useful and different OS.

    Since last year, Linux mint got $280k donations. Omarchy in the last few months got 15 MILLION. Linux mint maintains 2 distros, and 1 desktop environment, and is basically the gold standard for newbie friendly distros. Omarchy is a few dotfiles and a pile of nazis.


  • m. Tell us what “fascist” means to you, and why you think it applies in this context.

    DHH—creator of Ruby on Rails, CTO at 37signals, and Shopify board member—has published white-nationalist essays. He called a Tommy Robinson “remigration” march “heartwarming,”[1][2][3][46] and wrote another comparing Roma people to wolves to be shot and deported.[4][5] Anthropic’s own model refused to translate it, calling it dehumanizing.[6]

    wrote another comparing Roma people to wolves to be shot and deported










  • I am totally in the dark here, the last time I did anything programming related was making a batch file in windows 20 years ago.

    It’s a good thing we’re looking at this from a more “why this tool not other tool” aspect then.

    To de-abstractify the concepts a little:

    1. There are horrible data sources from things like unit 731 or the holocaust, and most of the time, scientists reject using them for various reasons, but the ethics of using that data is murky. A similar idea enters the picture here. Yeah, DHH et al aren’t killing people, but what about when the Omarchy foundation starts being the top sponsor of White Pride Worldwide?
    2. basically, nothing is permanently done. It always needs maintenance and updates, because entropy exists. Washing Machines, Guitars, homes, clothes, software, etc. Human culture too. You may have a recording, but to keep the “culture” alive, it needs to be played by someone and listened to someone. The issue with fascist open source is that the people keeping the “culture” alive are fascists, so one is participating in their perpetuation of their works, regardless of if the tools themselves are fascist or not.
    3. We are, unwillingly, perpetuating in the public visibility of Omarchy by discussing it. If we install Omarchy and talk about how we’re pleased with it, etc , we are helping others get visibility of Omarchy when we are behaving as OS curators. We are not perpetuating every other operating system that exists. The public awareness of a zillion others disappears, where we could be promoting it.

    To expand on the last point : Compared to human attention, human creations might as well be infinite. Curation is how we try to limit what we are exposed to, since we can’t start from A and walk our way to Z for everything.

    I guess it wasn’t that long.

    I look forward to your response, ephemeral associate. Stay safe and stay sane out there.




  • no, you’re making a salient argument. I don’t want to dump a book length (/s) idea I’ve had brewing in my head about this, so we can have a little chat. I’ll just throw the broadest strokes to you.

    1. What do you do with unethical scientific advances? Eg : Data on human limits on heat/cold/sleep deprivation obtained through torture? Can you use them in ethical projects after?
    2. How does a culture perpetuate? What are permanently completed projects? If an untrustworthy party is working on a project that for now seems fair, can you rely on it while its still being worked on and have faith that you can use that to go forward and build new things without getting stabbed in the back after?
    3. Curation. By choosing something curated by a “bad person TM” you are not giving opportunities of propagation to a project maintained and created by a “good person TM”.