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  • you think authorship is so valuable or so special that one should be granted a legally enforceable monopoly at the loosest notions of authorship

    Yes, I believe creative works should be protected as that expression has value and in a digital world it is too simple to copy and deprive the original author of the value of their work. This applies equally to Disney and Tumblr artists.

    I think without some agreement on the value of authorship / creation of original works, it’s pointless to respond to the rest of your argument.


  • I’ll repeat what you said with emphasis:

    AI can “learn” from and “read” a book in the same way a person can and does

    The emphasized part is incorrect. It’s not the same, yet your argument seems to be that because (your claim) it is the same, then it’s no different from a human reading all of these books.

    Regarding your last point, copyright law doesn’t just kick in because you try to pass something off as an original (by, for ex, marketing a book as being from a best selling author). It applies based on similarity whether you mention the original author or not.


  • AI can “learn” from and “read” a book in the same way a person can and does

    This statement is the basis for your argument and it is simply not correct.

    Training LLMs and similar AI models is much closer to a sophisticated lossy compression algorithm than it is to human learning. The processes are not at all similar given our current understanding of human learning.

    AI doesn’t reproduce a work that it “learns” from, so why would it be illegal?

    The current Disney lawsuit against Midjourney is illustrative - literally, it includes numerous side-by-side comparisons - of how AI models are capable of recreating iconic copyrighted work that is indistinguishable from the original.

    If a machine can replicate your writing style because it could identify certain patterns, words, sentence structure, etc then as long as it’s not pretending to create things attributed to you, there’s no issue.

    An AI doesn’t create works on its own. A human instructs AI to do so. Attribution is also irrelevant. If a human uses AI to recreate the exact tone, structure and other nuances of say, some best selling author, they harm the marketability of the original works which fails fair use tests (at least in the US).