Racial chauvinism is a remnant of cannibalism and needs to be exterminated, as our dear comrade once wrote.

And while it is understandable for historically and acutely oppressed people to feel hate or bias against their oppressor, conquering our own biases and blind spots is our challenge as marxists.

A white disabled person will still be oppressed, white women are being oppressed, the irish, who are white, have been brutally oppressed and massacred by britain.

There is nothing to gain from generalizing and the argument that generalizing poc has a different impact than that of white people does not hold weight on its own. Of course poc are more oppressed than white people, but a black man will on average be less oppressed than a black woman, etc. But as you see, this only drives the working class against each other. It is class struggle first and foremost and minority struggle alongside it, not before.

Why dont you make the effort to actually educat yourbcomrades instead of this barely good faith argument? It feels very different from the usual way of discussing things here. If you state something, prove it.

I obviously need to read more about her once I have the time. But so far it seems like her material conditions were very different than those of lenin which led to some discussuions, partly on the national question and libs famously use her as a stepping stone to discredit the bolschewiks but i’ll have to find that.

I never said revisionist. I’m saying left communist/trotzkyist. That means okay with capitalism and generally bigoted on material conditions, e.g. idealist, etc.

The conditions the bolsheviks found were just reality and they did great. Everyone saying different is sus imo. Nobody else ever managed to do what they did or ever since. There is nobody who has the tiniest credit to actually criticize them imo.

I haven’t read her own theories. She did pop up in a lot of situations with mixed quotes. So far I’m getting mostly left communism/trotzkyist vibes from her actions. But I might be misremembering.

I learned esterday what actually happened. This is such a novel and dosgusting reality, it was hard to listen to.

It just doesnt compute and the western arrogance to just lie is breathtaking. I dont know what to say.

Its probably also in prolewiki but I have to admit there is a lot in there which I still need to read through.

Generalizing certain people does not help the situation at all and has been the reductionary strategy of most governments and churches. Class struggle in part means understanding that you have a lot more in common with fellow workers of another country or continent than your own government. Leaving out differences in culture, people from the balkans are no more or less aggressive and hateful than british or russian people.

People are always subject to their material conditions. Currently, people are being actively driven towards hate by a multi billion dollar propaganda machine consisting of all media. There is no escaping that for the vast majority atm.

That is of course not to leave out the systematic and individual hate that ethnic minorities, especially poc have and are being subjected to. It is an ongoing an necessary effort to divide the working class and keep it from challenging power. The ruling classes really learned from the octorber revolution and are working overtime to keep it from repeating. Futile in my opinion but we’ll see.

Which peninsula do you mean has been at war for so long?

Leaving the imperial core, especially as an obviously marginalized minority is a great idea if you have the means. I do however not have any insight in the reality of black people in the us so i cant say if there is any chance at organizing atm and how dangerous that is. It does look like it is really dangerous though.

People keep recommending ireland to me since they have a solid stance on palestine and keep resisting the brits. Do not - i repeat - do not go to germany at this point. I do think that the best bet in general today would be china but its gonna be rough from the amount of change (language, culture, far away, etc.)