Of course I’m referring to Supernatural

The X Files was amazing

I see it more as a (shittier) fantasy version of The X Files

Okay, so you agree you can accept a person as a human and a friend without accepting their beliefs?

Misleading question. If their “differing belief” is that God created the Earth, or that crystals have healing magic, then whatever. They can be kooky if they want. If their “differing belief” is that only whites deserve to live, they can get fucked.

I wouldn’t really agree with that only because its just not your job. You don’t have a responsibility with burdening yourself with constantly correcting others.

What a deliciously convenient excuse for not challenging your nazi friends. “It’s not my job!!”

It’s also “not your job” to queue properly, to put shopping trolleys back in the corral, or to obey traffic laws. You do it anyway, though, because it is the right thing to do. I don’t have to be employed for every little thing i do.

But hey, let’s try your logic: it is not my job to ensure that every little racist feels accepted and understood. It’s not my responsibility to coddle Nazis.

Where did I compromise on my beliefs?

Having a “fun” conversation with a nazi

I mean did you see what I said about literally explicitly being okay with being friends with a murderer. If you’re actually curious about why I think like that: I think people are much more multifaceted than most people give credit for. They’re molded by their environment, habits they fall into. I think behaviors and beliefs are closer to habits, or sometimes addictions, to ways of thinking than they are fixed elements of a “personality” or “identity”. I think there are probably many killers who were genuinely sweet, and kind, and caring, to their friends and family- and when they’re like that, that’s just as much them as when they’re doing genuinely evil things. I can see the human while also not enabling the evil.

Well that’s all very sweet, how nice of you to be so kind to murderers.

But whatever, I just don’t care - you are not beholden to be kind to someone just because they are multifaceted and complete humans. Humans can be evil, and if even one of those “facets” is murdering or a desire for genocide, I have every right to disagree with that. I do not owe anyone my time, or my patience.

And so fucking what if they’re molded by their environment and experiences? Why should I give even the slightest shit if the end result of the molding process was a FUCKING NAZI? I’ve had bad experiences with ethnic minorities and didn’t blame it on their heritage or skin colour. Why should I let them off the hook?

Yea I agree their sense of humor is often really bad. “N-word == funny” type stuff. But there might be some some actually funny ones.

Funny if you’re racist. And again, I do not have to wade through a mile of shit and corpses just because there might be a slice of cake at the end. I am allowed to say “no, fuck off”.

Also the worst thing is how they always want to bring everything back to the jews. Like I can think a movie is bad without wanting to hear a 10 minute rant about how the jews control Hollywood.

Yet another reason not to talk to them outside of berating them.

Where did I say that?

Like I already said: when you said you’d prefer a “fun” nazi to someone else “boring”, and implied by you taking issue with me saying you should either argue or leave. This implies you’d prefer to stay and not argue. And if you’re not arguing with them or leaving, what are you doing? Standing completely still with no words or body language of your own? No, you’re engaging in the conversation.

Why are you arguing with me, then, when all I said was that you shouldn’t accept being in the presence of their beliefs? Based on your most recent comments you seem to agree… so what are we doing here? And why are you trying to catch me in some gotcha based on a statement I never made?

And no, accepting a belief means not challenging it, implicitly treating it as normal.

I’d rather be friends with a Nazi who’s fun to talk to over a sane person who is boring to talk to.

Disgusting, absurd and unrealistic. I can’t imagine compromising on my beliefs simply for… what… entertainment??

“Oh, well, he’d like to kill all the non-whites, but he told a good joke one time.”

Seriously, you must have a severely broken moral compass to think like this.

But even putting all that aside, I can’t imagine a Nazi ever being “fun to talk to”. Fun for them is beating up ethnic minorities. Jokes to them are bullying those who are different.

And you’d just happily nod along to their racist statements about ethnic minorities? Really? Simply because Jim the non-Nazi is, like, a bit boring?

Idk about you, but i consider the moral sanctity of my soul to be far more important than a few minutes of entertainment - which, tbh, I likely wouldn’t even enjoy.

How isn’t it a meme? It’s an idea that’s been repeated and passed through many people, surviving in its distilled but still exploitable form.

That’s not my definition. That’s you trying to deflect.

No, i neither argue with them of GTFO, like I said.

No, that’s agreeing.

Use your words. How is it “wrong”?

judge you for who you talk with, instead of for what you say.

So if someone had a happy conversation with a Nazi about the “degeneracy of the West” and “Judeo-bolshevism”, you wouldn’t judge them?

If you sit with someone, and they say “death to all Jews”, and you DON’T immediately argue or leave - you are accepting their beliefs as valid.

“All that bullshit” was the product of a few moments’ thought. You’re the one dragging this out and making a big deal out of nothing. I just corrected your assumption. There’s no reason for us to even still be talking other than you being unable to admit your mistake.

Low stakes situations exist, dude. That is the weirdest pedantry I’ve ever seen, and doesn’t even follow.

Anyway, I won’t buy that deflection. You know that I’m saying you don’t understand what’s happening in the conversation. You just can’t rationally respond to it, so you try instead to distract me.

Like you said, it’s not that serious… so why dodge?

No dude you’re just kinda being a dick and not really understanding the situation