How typical is it that we would start looking at standing these data centers up now they are running up against regulatory resistance in more progressive parts of the world.

Hey look New York state have started banning new builds, sounds like our time to start.

Cool, if there are two resources this country has way too much of its power and water.

Just the other day I was complaining to my wife that our powerbill is way too low, I was really hoping the government would come up with a strategy to raise it…

And water, well we are having a good year with record levels in local catchments, that means this will be the way of things forever… Right… Right?

We couldn’t possibly end up facing down water restrictions while slop factories got to keep using because of the economic necessity… Right? Right?

Late stage capitalism just continues to be the gift that craps down the collective throats of all the people.

Its worse than that, if they were to do a Microsoft or Sony and sell it at a loss to try and make money back on the games, then what would happen when they sell through the batch they currently have of presumably pre “BiBi and Donnys special visit to Iran” costed units, then what?

Suddenly all the other components are spiking in price, the pcbs and the plastic cost more, the packaging is more expensive, and they are forced to raise their prices. The sound of screeching from the terminally online intensifies as a bunch of “experts” declare that Valve can afford to lose money because Gabe isn’t walking around in a barrel Diogenes style.

As a software company in the hardware industry Valve are a lot further down the chain than the bigger names, they aren’t securing super long term contracts with anyone. They don’t dictate terms. I doubt they are making a ton of money on any of their hardware, they are just trying to nudge the market in the right direction. We are going to see so many knock off steam machines in the next few years, Microsoft will keep releasing targetted versions of Windows to try to smother SteamOS, its a great time for the rest of the gaming ecosystem while AI fucks the hardware side.

Once the US economy craters into the recession it should by all rights currently be working through… Oh I am sure at that point there will be all sorts of companies dumping all sorts of things into every market they can to try to survive.

The AI bubble bursting will fuck the world in ways that will take decades to unfuck. If sanity was even slightly fashionable right now governments around the world, especially the US would be using every power they had to put some limits on this whole mess. Regulation, taxation, environmental controls everything would be on the table.

Instead we seem to be racing at the wall as fast as we can with NVidia and co in the driving seat, and governments around the world in the passenger seat screaming “Go! Go! Go!”

That’s OK though, economic turmoil is felt by the individual based on their starting wealth. The rich often manage to become wealthier, it’s the poor who get buried. Yay capitalism.

What I am curious about is why this should be a negative for anyone, devs who want to use AI get an easy way to filter out the people who will kick back against it, the people who will kick back against it get a quieter existence, Lemmy should be happy.

I keep seeing how having to categorise will provide a perverse incentive to not disclose and I guess I don’t understand why that would be the case.

It’s not like they are tricking people into buying these free programs, it’s not like they are soliciting contributions from other devs (they have an AI for that), and its not like there is some sort of score being kept (besides earning some sort of credibility on Github as a pro-AI developer through that star thing I guess).

So what would be the motivation to try to trick the community into embracing these sorts of projects? Open and enthusiastic disclosure and a community push to simply move on if you find that style of development distasteful would work better for everyone.

I have walked away from using a project that was developed with AI and I didn’t feel the need to slam the developer for it, I just moved on. They didn’t betray my trust because they don’t owe me anything, and I didn’t unfairly judge their work because I don’t owe them anything. Everyone’s a winner.

But that’s just my humble opinion.

So I wonder if the pay is better in the Right Wing grifterverse… I mean if he wanted d out of any contracts with Nine, so he could do a hard pivot into that media realm this was guaranteed to get that result. It’s not going to hurt him with the type of person who was always going to follow him / One Nation voters. The only people this will turn off are the terminally uninformed who think he is some sort of impartial centrist, surely a vanishingly small number of people who were only ever going to passively watch him on breakfast TV.

Its the hair in the front that I find distracting.

Its almost like they use a complicated model to determine the price based on what the market will bear rather than set a price based upon a certain percentage of profit against cost pricing and some countries embrace the cult regardless of the cost. You could almost view Apples pricing in a given market as a measure of the pragmatism and rationality of the local consumer base.

Worldwide the prices are likely to go up as the data centres they use to provide these tangible benefits have to compete with AI data centres for resources. It will be interesting to see if price rises are applied evenly or if they use some of the more profitable whales to subsidise the areas where the consumer base is more sceptical.

I also wonder if theres going to be a golden age of snapping up unused capacity when the AI bubble bursts and all these speculative data centres that are being built before the demand eventuates get desperate to stay afloat.

Have you tried any Australians, specifically Tasmanians. I have a half dozen names I could throw out but not sure how far out of Australia they have name recognition. Well besides the Springbay but that’s nowhere near the price range these days.

Its hard to believe it’s been a whole eight hours on Lemmy for you Serena… Since your account will be gone when I wake up tomorrow, “Welcome!” and “Goodbye.” You won’t be missed.

I’ll add that I have never heard of this symbol being used by White Supremacists, and now I am scared. I’m pretty sure some of those whack jobs wave to each other, do I run the risk of waving to a friend and being accused of racism? Will I one day use a thumbs up and get arrested for hate-gesture?

And do we run risks when we let the ADL be the arbiters of what is and isn’t racial discrimination. They have a lot of stances I (and a large population of people worldwide) disagree with.

So wouldn’t addressing the underlying social conditions be an even more effective way of combating these problems? Adequate support and resources for neuro divergant at risk kids, better social safeguards, diversion and engagement for early intervention of kids showing warning signs. Instead of working with big tech, they could properly regulate and tax them and use the windfall to properly fund schools to maybe provide these kids some hope for the future.

Oh but then they wouldn’t get a surveillance apparatus they can use to monitor every moment their citizens spend online. Plus they wouldn’t be able to retire from public service to well paid consultancies for the big tech companies they have enriched… Silly me.

Many years ago I worked with some people in the telco space who worked on mobile phone towers. One poor guy kept repairing a tower that was repeatedly vandalised by Anti-5G “activists”. The tower wasn’t even set up for 5G. To convince anyone who would listen that the 5G was dangerous they were poisoning random trees around the tower. He got spat on by a looney that hissed at him about “Killing babies”.

There are just nutters out there who want to drag the world backwards to some halcyon day of yore (that never existed) and who refuse to let science, facts, or actual common sense (not the perverted pseudo masterbatory fantasy they try to pass off as common sense) get in the way of the narrative they have concocted, or been fed by grifters.

The last one I had the misfortune of discussing renewables with brought up the Spotlight piece on renewables. I went away and researched it, caught up with him a week later and started giving him some facts around the piece, he had genuinely forgotted he brought it up and then responded to my fact checks with “Oh I don’t care about any of that, just thought the wind turbines look ugly and the construction site looks pretty rough.” He also told me Howard was easily the best PM Australia has ever had and that Labor hasn’t delivered a single budget surplus only the Liberals are able to do that. Suffice to say I just refuse to talk politics with someone that terminally uninformed and uninterested.

I wasn’t actually going to say anything about this but it might be received ok (or at least balanced considering how much I despise the spicy auto-correct).

I looked at your App and it looked like it had potential, I even asked a question that apparently led to a change in how onboarding works.

However I prefer not to use LLM generated code. Especially not when it’s for something that will no doubt entail years of use. But my qualms and scruples are not your problem so I just shut my mouth and moved on. You’re building this, it’s to scratch your itch and you get to call the shots.

Me being uncomfortable with how you do it is immaterial, as a user I can and have made the choice to seek other solutions and so downvoting or trash talking you would be petty at best.

I hope as a community we can start to just say “No thank you” when we are offered something that’s done in a way we don’t like, after all, we have the opportunity to do it differently and make “No LLMs” a key part of our projects, anyone who is not doing that needs to analyse why they feel entitled to shit on someone else’s project.

At least that’s my $0.05.

Nope. Just listening to the advice, often attributed somewhat dubiously to George Carlin, about not arguing with idiots.

You still don’t know what a communist is. I don’t know what upsets me more about people like you, that you might be dumb enough to believe the shit you dribble, or that you are disingenuous and self loathing enough to confidently and stridently shout this shit knowing it is, in fact, shit.

Either way I think I am done with you, I have consistently delivered reasoned and cogent arguments in all of our interactions, you have dribbled shit. I already have a full time job I can’t hold down another one shouting you down. So farewell, I hope one day you can reach a place of understanding that society needs to exist for the benefit of the most people not just the boot that’s currently stepping on you.

Oh yeah, you are right of course, all the economic indicators around widening wealth gap and shrinking middle class are just communist delusions. You numpty. I am not a communist or an aspiring communist, sorry you picked the wrong boogeyman to assign me. I would probably align with weak Socialism if anything but I do believe democracy can work so social democrat in terms of outlook. Nobody has EARNT a billion dollars ever and the existence of billionaires is a strong sign of the rot that has set in to “free market” economies worldwide. No amount of bleating about different ethnic groups will fix that, but it sure keeps the rubes distracted, so enjoy the taste of those boots as long as you can while “advocating” for “freedom”.

I set up Opencloud to give it a try, set up to sync my photo folder from my phone, meaning to just spin it up and then delete it. I then got called out of the house on an errand and forgot all about it until 4 weeks later when I redid my WireGuard settings. While the tunnel was failing to connect I got complaints about it not being able to find the server, I knew I had fixed it once it stopped popping error messages at me. Just checked and there is 1.3gb of photos in there I never noticed it syncing. It was a bit of a nuisance to get going but seems to just run as a spot to throw a bunch of files and access them on the go. At least based on my accidental 4 week impact assessment.

Cool, and you offer a well documented and open source Conversion platform to run on our own servers I assume? That is after all why you would advertise to the Self Hosting community. If not can I suggest that you, meaning alphaeBook management sit down with whatever marketing drone suggested this as a good idea for advertising, and calmly and gently advise them that they have perhaps reached too far. Their aspirations, while understandable, have outstripped their capability. Then have them take on a role they are more capable of. Do start ups like yours have a mailroom to allow the gentle re-education of such wayward, uh, intelligences?

And if you can’t see what a bunch of dog whistles all of that is you are as cooked as the people who posted all that in the first place. The numbers are already dropping from the spike after Covid. People are already losing jobs that interact with international markets, for example international education. We need to build more houses… Absolutely. Looks like the government is already trying to tweak the levers to incentivise investment into construction over hoarding existing properties.

You have been proselytized by the owner class, they own the property, they own the businesses and they own the media and they convince you that the only way to make the smallest of forward steps is at the expense of someone weaker than you. The more time we spend squabbling among ourselves the less time we spend thinking of ways to start taking back the wealth they have stolen from us, continue to steal from us.

As soon as there are no more Billionaires, no more corporations paying effectively zero tax, no more politicians that are owned by people who’s interests are the exact opposite of the public good I will accept there just isn’t enough to go round. That is common sense. Australia returning to isolationism will just prove the words of Lee Kuan Yew right.

We can aspire to be more than peasants. We don’t have to hand our government over to the mining companies and their robber baron CEOs. Plus you know once the PHONeys get their way with migrants, it’s trans people, then the rest of the LGBT community.