A bidet gets its water straight from the tap, not from the toilet bowl. His is the same water that you wash your hands in.

Someone mentioned the last mile problem, and someone else responded as if it doesn’t exist based purely on their own situation (right now). I’m pointing out that it does exist with my situation as an example (right now).

That’s all. Should we pretend like there’s no last mile problem?

Maybe in some ideal world, the last mile problem could be solved purely with public transit. We don’t live in that world. Investing as of we live in an ideal world is foolish.

If one approach is effective for more people, that’s great, but shouldn’t we also invest in solutions that fill the gap?

Here’s a summary of this thread:

Guy 1 - why is anyone doing waymo when there’s public transit

Guy 2 - last mile problem

Guy 3 - it works great for me in the city surrounded by bus stops, no last mile problem

Me - it doesn’t work great for me barely outside the city. (My point being that it’ll take a lot to get public transit to within 1 mile of where I am, let alone to someone even further from the city)

You - that’s your own fault so stop complaining

Me - so fuck me and everyone farther out than me apparently.

That’s how we got here. I simply stated my situation as it relates to public transit, and you tell me it’s just my own fault and I should shut up.

We have a long way to go to get ubiquitous public transit in America. I doubt we will ever get there. It makes sense to consider other options as well.

I’m saying we should go to the moon AND develop nuclear fusion.

You want to know what’s harmful to discussion? Pricks like you telling people that their opinion is irrelevant.

So fuck everyone who can’t afford to, or doesn’t want to, live in the city?

I can, do, and will vote for officials that want to expand public transit. I also appreciate other efforts being taken, because I don’t let perfect be the enemy of the good, and I recognize that no one solution works for everyone.

I live on a 40mph road with no sidewalk or shoulder. That is connected to a 45mph road with no sidewalk or shoulder. My nearest bus stop is 3.2 miles away.

I’m not even that far out, I can drive to a major city downtown in 30 minutes.

That’s great that you have all this infrastructure around you, but not everyone does. Like you said, a lack of perspective is not an excuse.