• FreedomAdvocate
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    3 days ago

    So no one should ever pay any tax is what you’re saying?

    You also still haven’t addressed my tax-on-revenue vs tax-on-profit example for businesses either. Could you please do that now, or there’s no point continuing this because you can’t understand why the difference exists.

    • BalpeenHammer@lemmy.nzOP
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      3 days ago

      So no one should ever pay any tax is what you’re saying?

      Again why do you resort to lying? Why are you being so dishonest? Do you think acting in a sleazy dishonest way like this makes you look good or wins arguments?

      When did I say nobody should ever pay taxes? Why did you feel compelled to lie like this?

      All I am saying is that humans should be given the same affordances as businesses. If I don’t eat or drink or have clothes to wear I go out of business. I die. I should be able to deduct every penny I spend on anything that keeps me alive.

      Could you please do that now, or there’s no point continuing this because you can’t understand why the difference exists.

      It’s doubly futile when you continually lie about what I am saying. Shame on you. Stop being such a dishonest sleazeball and have an adult conversation.

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        2 days ago

        I’m no lying- I’m using what you said - that people should be able to deduct all their expenses including food/clothing/transport/housing/etc from their income and only pay tax on their “profit”, which would result in pretty much no one ever paying any tax.

        Answer my questions about the example I gave you. Why do you continue to avoid it? Is it because you know you fucked up?

        • BalpeenHammer@lemmy.nzOP
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          2 days ago

          I’m no lying- I’m using what you said - that people should be able to deduct all their expenses including food/clothing/transport/housing/etc from their income and only pay tax on their “profit”, which would result in pretty much no one ever paying any tax.

          No it wouldn’t. They would pay taxes on any money left over after all that just like businesses do.

          Answer my questions about the example I gave you. Why do you continue to avoid it? Is it because you know you fucked up?

          I did answer you. You keep insisting that income is profits which it clearly isn’t. Profits is what’s left over after you pay all your expenses.

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            1 day ago

            No, you did not answer my example and questions.

            Do you understand why businesses couldn’t pay tax on revenue?

            As for income/profits, you’re just getting yourself all confused. When you earn an income from a job, you pay tax on the profit after you’ve deducted your costs. This is what your tax return is - your chance to claim all your costs that you paid in earning that income, thereby reducing the taxable income. You’re just getting confused because the tax is automatically taken out every pay.

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              1 day ago

              Do you understand why businesses couldn’t pay tax on revenue?

              In the made up numbers you presented?

              When you earn an income from a job, you pay tax on the profit after you’ve deducted your costs

              This is a false statement. I do not get to deduct the costs of my food, babysitter, drink, transportation, clothes etc. I should be able to deduct all my costs like a business does. A business gets to deduct ALL their costs. Every single penny.

              You’re just getting confused because the tax is automatically taken out every pay.

              No I am not. I should be able to deduct every penny I need to survive just like a business does.

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                1 day ago

                Those are not costs associated with your job, that’s why you can’t deduct them.

                A business gets to deduct “all” its costs because all the costs are associated with the business. There are laws around this, and no, not everything can be deducted.

                In the made up numbers you presented

                Yes, that’s how examples work. Do you think the numbers are “wrong”? The prices and margin that I gave for a PC build are very reasonable and realistic.

                Answer my questions from my example. Last chance then you’re blocked as you’re clearly not capable of intelligent debate.

                • BalpeenHammer@lemmy.nzOP
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                  19 hours ago

                  Those are not costs associated with your job, that’s why you can’t deduct them.

                  They are associated with my job because if I don’t have them I can’t do my job.

                  A business gets to deduct “all” its costs because all the costs are associated with the business.

                  See above. If I don’t eat I can’t do my job.

                  Yes, that’s how examples work. Do you think the numbers are “wrong”?

                  I think your example is silly. There is no reason we can’t have the exact same tax structure for businesses as we do for individuals. We could set up tiers etc. If people somehow are able to stay alive despite being taxed on revenue and having no relief whatsoever for their living costs so can businesses.

                  Answer my questions from my example. Last chance then you’re blocked as you’re clearly not capable of intelligent debate.

                  Oh my god. Some rando on the internet on a web site ten people use is going to block me because I don’t buy into his ideology. Whatever shall I do? I will be so despondent!

                  I answered your question multiple times. It’s just that your zealotry and inability to think outside the box causes you to reject the answer.

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                    3 hours ago

                    Answer my questions about my example.

                    You can’t because they prove you wrong.