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    21 hours ago

    Well, have you considered that perhaps these issues are simply a feature of government in general, regardless of ideology?

    Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely.

    By arguing that if we’re going to have all of these problems, we might as well have socialism, all you’re really saying is “I want the same thing, but in blue”.

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      Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely

      This is the biggest example of nonsense being treated as fact just because it got repeated enough

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          11 hours ago

          Nelson Mandela, though frankly I’d love to see you examples of power metaphysically “corrupting” people like it’s the one ring in the first place

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            He served a single term as a democratically elected president. Hardly an example of absolute power.

            As for the examples you asked for: I’m sure you’ve heard of Stalin, Mao, Che Guevara, Fidel Castro, Pol Pot, Tito…

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              9 hours ago

              He served a single term as a democratically elected president. Hardly an example of absolute power.

              And there goes the goal posts. God almighty then.

              Che Guevara

              Please show me where Che Guevara achieved absolute power, you historically illiterate chud. Or where he was fucking “corrupted” by it , for that matter.

              For that matter, show that any of those people achieved absolute power and then are “corrupted” by it, given none of them changed at all in terms of character or ideology.

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                9 hours ago

                Please show me where Che Guevara achieved absolute power, you historically illiterate chud.

                So you accuse me of moving goalpoasts and then you happily go on moving your own?

                Or where he was fucking “corrupted” by it , for that matter.

                That help at all? https://humanprogress.org/the-truth-about-che-guevara-racist-homophobe-and-mass-murderer/

                For that matter, show that any of those people achieved absolute power and then are “corrupted” by it, given none of them changed at all in terms of character or ideology.

                How many people did Stalin or Pol Pot murder? At what point would you consider the threshold of corruption to be surpassed?

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                  6 hours ago

                  So you accuse me of moving goalpoasts and then you happily go on moving your own?

                  ???

                  What exactly do you think ‘moving the goalposts’ actually means?

                  That help at all?

                  No it doesn’t, please actually explain how you think that link supports your argument that Che was “corrupted” by gaining power. (And yes, I know you didn’t actually read it, you’re just posting a link hoping nobody will bother to check.

                  How many people did Stalin or Pol Pot murder?

                  How is that remotely relevant to your claim that gaining power “corrupted” them?

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                    I mean, if literal genocide in the pursuit of political ideology isn’t a red flag for you, I’m not sure what we are even talking about here?

                    Compared to what he did, the stuff in the OP is chicken shit. I take it you’re also a big fan of Netanyahu, then?